scoutingagain Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Thought this would be of interest to members of the forum. Ironically, the girls described in the Texas GSTroop in the article are probaly more aligned with the "values" of the BSA, but are ineligible for membership. Anyway I found it interesting that the BSA's female counterparts have their own morality issues to deal with. I'm not taking a position pro or con. SA Some Texans Boycott Girl Scout Cookies By ANGELA K. BROWN, Associated Press Writer CRAWFORD, Texas - Some families are boycotting Thin Mints and Do-Si-Dos and other Girl Scout cookies. Troop 7527 is down to just two members after the other girls were withdrawn by their parents. And Brownie Troop 7087 is no more. Related Links Girl Scout Cookies (Girl Scouts) Why are folks in this conservative Texas town where President Bush has his ranch so mad at the Girl Scout organization? Planned Parenthood (news - web sites) and sex education. The furor was started a few weeks ago by the leader of the anti-abortion group Pro-Life Waco, who sent out e-mails and ran ads on a Christian radio station urging people to boycott Girl Scout cookies because of the "cozy relationship" between the Girl Scouts and Planned Parenthood. Parents were upset to learn that the local Girl Scout organization had given a "woman of distinction award" last year to a Planned Parenthood executive. And they were disturbed to find out that the Girl Scout organization has been giving its endorsement for years to a Planned Parenthood sex-ed program in which girls and boys are given literature on homosexuality, masturbation and condoms. "It's not that we're a bunch of activists. We're just a bunch of moms who care about their kids," said Lisa Aguilar, who took her 10-year-old daughter out of her eight-member Girl Scout troop. "For us, it's the morality. Where is Girl Scouts going?" The two troops in Crawford, population 700, decided not to deliver the cookie orders that they had already taken. But cookie sales have skyrocketed this year as many people bought cases just to show their support for the Girl Scouts, said Becky Parker, a troop leader who is the cookie distributor for Waco-area troops. "People thought the boycott was ridiculous and was one man's extremist views," Parker said. While the cookie boycott may have backfired, the furor prompted the parent leaders of the two Crawford troops to quit. "You're telling these girls to raise their fingers up to pledge to honor God and country, and yet you're handing out materials saying homosexuality is OK," said Brownie leader Donna Coody, who disbanded her five-member troop. Because of the uproar, the Bluebonnet Council of Girl Scouts, which oversees troops in the Waco area and 13 other counties, announced last week that it would not be affiliated with Planned Parenthood sex-education programs this year. In an editorial in Friday's Waco Tribune-Herald, Pam Smallwood, the Planned Parenthood of Central Texas executive director who was honored by the Girl Scouts last year, complained that Girl Scouts had thereby demonstrated that "bullying tactics are more effective than an informed democracy." The Waco-area Girl Scout organization has been putting its name and logo on brochures for the Planned Parenthood sex-education programs but said it does not contribute any money and does not send girls to attend. Some 400 to 700 fifth- through ninth-graders attend the half-day Nobody's Fool conference in Waco each July. The program never mentions abortion, according to Planned Parenthood. The youngsters receive a book with chapters on homosexuality and masturbation, as well as illustrations of couples having sex, people examining their naked bodies and a boy putting on a condom. Some Girl Scout mothers called it soft-core porn. "It embarrassed me to look at it with my husband," said parent Shannon Donaldson. Pro-Life Waco director John Pisciotta, an economics professor at Baylor, the world's largest Baptist university, said his call for a cookie boycott "was a way to bring attention to the issue and wasn't really about cookies." The Girl Scouts national organization, which is based in New York and has 2.9 million girl members and 986,000 adult members, takes no position on sex education or abortion and has no national relationship with Planned Parenthood, according to the Bluebonnet Council. The Crawford mothers are forming their own girls organization and will use a Christian-based curriculum. Beth Vivio, director of the Bluebonnett Council, declined to say if parents in any other troops had taken their daughters out. Some parents decided to explain abortion to their girls. Others gave only a vague explanation about the uproar. "Our girls have been through a lot these past three weeks," said Jennifer Smith, who quit as leader of Girl Scout Troop 7527 and removed her daughter. "After I told my 10-year-old daughter that they are supporting some things that are not morally right, she understood." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoreaScouter Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 I understand the sentiments of the families involved, and would certainly not want my GS daughter going through such indoctrination, if that's the right term. But, as I understand this, the classes weren't part of the GS Council program, and nobody was compelled to go. The issue is the local council leadership recognizing the PP figure with an award, and agreeing to make promotional literature available at their council offices. If that's the case, this sounds more like a case of a nitwit local council person than a systemic program flaw. At the Troop level, these moms could have formed their own troops, or ensured they filtered the nonsense from council before any of it reached them. In my experience, local GS councils are almost completely disengaged and uninvolved with anything the Troops are doing -- should be easy to play "traffic cop". Or, they could have petitioned their local council leadership to get their policies more in line with the collective values of their members or even make some staff changes. Instead, they pulled their daughters out of Scouting. To me, that's like cutting off your nose to spite your face, especially since this "issue" was an easily controlled external variable. KS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Eagle Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 If the parents determined that the values of the Girl Scouts are not compatible with their values, they should have removed their daughters. The GS don't have to have any "bad" values for their values to be insufficient. Instead the GS could just have some value these parents see as being critical lacking from their values. It is clear that the GS don't have any firmly grounded value against teaching the various things that these PP literature and coarses taught. Also there is the indirect connection now between GS and abortion (GS linked to Planned Parenthood, which in turn is tied to abortion). If I had youth that I was responisble for involved in the GS program I would at least have to consider weather values that allow promotion of these things are compatible with my values. I don't know what conclusion I would reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purcelce Posted March 5, 2004 Share Posted March 5, 2004 Very interesting thread. I had better re-read all my GSUSA Council literature to make sure this stuff doesn't show up in my daughters' Troops. I would go KS's way instead of pulling my girls out of Scouting all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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