The Boy Scouts and the United Nations

[OldGreyEagle]

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[OldGreyEagle]

Mission Statement

 The mission of the Boy Scouts of America is to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law.

Scout Oath

On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

Scout Law

 A Scout is: Trustworthy Loyal Helpful Friendly Courteous Kind Obedient Cheerful Thrifty Brave Clean Reverent

Vision Statement

The Boy Scouts of America is the nation's foremost youth program of character development and values-based leadership training. In the future Scouting will continue to

 

 Offer young people responsible fun and adventure;

Instill in young people lifetime values and develop in them ethical character as expressed in the Scout Oath and Law;

Train young people in citizenship, service, and leadership;

Serve America's communities and families with its quality, values-based program.

 

FOG,  you have proved to be a fairly good proof reader in the past, where is the part that refers to the black helicopters?

BTW, this excercise is open to anyone, of course...

[Laurie]

I take offense at OGE being criticized this way. He has shown strength of character repeatedly in many threads, and I'd consider him an excellent role model for my sons. Now, about that definition of virtue. I hadn't posted earlier with the hopes Wheeler would go away, but looking at real working definitions from two dictionaries, I have trouble spotting how the BSA could be anything but an organization that promotes virtue.

 

virtue ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vrch)

n.

 

1.

a. Moral excellence and righteousness; goodness.

b. An example or kind of moral excellence: the virtue of patience.

2. Chastity, especially in a woman.

3. A particularly efficacious, good, or beneficial quality; advantage: a plan with the virtue of being practical.

4. Effective force or power: believed in the virtue of prayer.

5. virtues Christianity. The fifth of the nine orders of angels in medieval angelology.

6. Obsolete. Manly courage; valor.

 

Idiom:

by/in virtue of

On the grounds or basis of; by reason of: well-off by virtue of a large inheritance.

 

[Middle English vertu, from Old French, from Latin virts, manliness, excellence, goodness, from vir, man. See w-ro- in Indo-European Roots.]

 

Source: The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

Copyright 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

 

virtue

 

\Vir"tue\ (?; 135), n. [OE. vertu, F. vertu, L. virtus strength, courage, excellence, virtue, fr. vir a man. See Virile, and cf. Virtu.] 1. Manly strength or courage; bravery; daring; spirit; valor. [Obs.] --Shak.

 

Built too strong For force or virtue ever to expugn. --Chapman.

 

2. Active quality or power; capacity or power adequate to the production of a given effect; energy; strength; potency; efficacy; as, the virtue of a medicine.

 

Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about. --Mark v. 30.

 

A man was driven to depend for his security against misunderstanding, upon the pure virtue of his syntax. --De Quincey.

 

The virtue of his midnight agony. --Keble.

 

3. Energy or influence operating without contact of the material or sensible substance.

 

She moves the body which she doth possess, Yet no part toucheth, but by virtue's touch. --Sir. J. Davies.

 

4. Excellence; value; merit; meritoriousness; worth.

 

I made virtue of necessity. --Chaucer.

 

In the Greek poets, . . . the economy of poems is better observed than in Terence, who thought the sole grace and virtue of their fable the sticking in of sentences. --B. Jonson.

 

5. Specifically, moral excellence; integrity of character; purity of soul; performance of duty.

 

Virtue only makes our bliss below. --Pope.

 

If there's Power above us, And that there is all nature cries aloud Through all her works, he must delight in virtue. --Addison.

 

6. A particular moral excellence; as, the virtue of temperance, of charity, etc. ``The very virtue of compassion.'' --Shak. ``Remember all his virtues.'' --Addison.

 

7. Specifically: Chastity; purity; especially, the chastity of women; virginity.

 

H. I believe the girl has virtue. M. And if she has, I should be the last man in the world to attempt to corrupt it. --Goldsmith.

 

8. pl. One of the orders of the celestial hierarchy.

 

Thrones, dominations, princedoms, virtues, powers. --Milton.

 

Cardinal virtues. See under Cardinal, a.

 

In, or By, virtue of, through the force of; by authority of. ``He used to travel through Greece by virtue of this fable, which procured him reception in all the towns.'' --Addison. ``This they shall attain, partly in virtue of the promise made by God, and partly in virtue of piety.'' --Atterbury.

 

Theological virtues, the three virtues, faith, hope, and charity. See --1 Cor. xiii. 13.

 

Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

 

Enough typing for me today! It's time to have a tea party with my daughter, then do some housework

 

[WHEELER]

Do you know why the oxymorons are not answered?

 

Syncretism is the socialist modality. Everything is in greys.

 

Socrates is the founder and father of Western Culture. He brought to light the central core of Western Culture and the essence of man and that is Truth. Truth exists and it must be defended.

 

Black and White thinking. "To define and divide" is Western Modality. Western Culture is masculine. Hellenism is masculine.

 

Syncretism is an Eastern modality. Syncretism is femal thought. Syncretism is the basis of socialist modality. One can be a Hindo and a Christian, doesn't bother them.

[OldGreyEagle]

"Thats what you say"

 

Ascribed to Marty Doyle

[firstpusk]

It is clear that WHEELER does not really understand the program. His criticism of the program as "socialist" on the basis of a cursory reading of the citizenship in the world MB requirements proves his lack of understanding.

 

We do not tell them to join the international communist conspiracy, to hate America or to kill Christians.

 

The badge talks of international law and treaties, international organizations (including WOSM), international trade and communication. It is the kind of badge that truly broadens the horizons of many of the boys that take it. WHEELER you like to spout off on things you refuse to undrstand. That shows you are willfully ignorant and willing to slander what you don't understand. Seems you are bearing false witness. I guess you kind of make a habit of that, don't you.

[Twocubdad]

Wheeler, your "oxymorons" haven't been answered because no one else considers them to be oxymoronic, just moronic.

 

One can do their duty to God by working with UN humanitarian agencies to feed the hungry, heal the sick and clothe the homeless.

 

One can do their duty to Country by promoting peace and their own self interest.

 

I'd love to show a similar example for your third oxymoron, but I honestly don't know what the hell you're talking about. Unless you refer to the original Greek etomylogy of "virtue," I don't beleive any modern definition of the word had anything to do with masculinity.

 

Life is not a zero sum game. I can help my neighbor without weakening myself. By helping my neighbor he becomes a better neighbor and I have helped myself.

 

You're so big into philosophy, try reading Hume and some of the Enlightment authors and their views on the development of civilization.

[WHEELER]

Snycretism is also the basis of Unisexism. The inclusion of females in the scouting program is just that---Unisexism and Unisexism is syncretism, making everything the same.

The Boy Scouts are being closed out by the United Way and being persecuted by the City of San Diego. These people that are persecuting the Boy Scouts and hampering them are the same people that support the United Nations. Isn't there a little duplicity going on here? Is it the conservatives who are persecting the BSA or is it the liberals? This is how foolish the BSA program and its leaders look, they are feeding the hand that is biting them!!!!!!

Logic is what Logic does.  As Jesus said, "If a Kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.  A house divided against itself  that house will not be able to stand".  You can not serve two masters.

One can see the syncretic modality in the BSA and their trying to ingratiate themselves but it is not working.  The attacks are growing and will intensify.  The house of the United Nations is not divided.  The BSA program is.  One can not be a trainer of men and be a part of the house of the United Nations.  The BSA is trying to serve two masters.  The BSA is full of contradictions that will implode in upon itself.

 

TO GREY EAGLE:

PLEASE PUT UP THE ORIGINAL CHARTER OF THE BOY SCOUT PROGRAM.   Lets compare.  Let's see the differences.