sctmom Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 There seems to be a lot of differences in interpertations of the Scoutmaster handbook and the Scout handbook. That can be seen on this very board. What seems "obvious" and "common sense" to some, is not that way to others. As Dan is saying there is a lot that is NOT written or taught. Like in my other thread, I was taught WRONG things at district training, but there is nothing in the handbooks that tells me they were wrong. I trusted that the trainers knew what they were talking about it. After all "we've always done it this way...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Williamson Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Thanks for the advice in your posting of 2:50 pm yesterday. But a piece of it points to my frustration. I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a Patrol Leader and Senior Patrol Leader Handbook and that they were good resources until AFTER my training when I stumbled onto them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Williamson Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 OOps...My last was for Bob White...Thanks for yesterday's 2:50 PM advice. Dan Williamson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocubdad Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Are there any Cub leaders who have taken the new Wood Badge course? Part of the change was the elimination of the Cub Scout Wood Badge and combining it into one course. From the above discriptions, it sounds as if most of the course is foucused on managing boy-lead Troops. How are the needs of Cub leaders addressed? Our council is offering a course in October, and I've kicked around the idea of applying. But since our training committee cancelled both Webelos position specific and Webelos Leader Outdoor Training (both prerequisites), it would mean two weekends in September and two weekends in October -- a bit much. I've also committed to national camp school this winter, so my one hour a week is booked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob White Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Twocubdad, Cub Scout Wood Badge was not combined into Boy Scout Wood Badge. Wood Badge was completely restructured to serve all adult leaders. Cub Wood Badge use to be a trainer development course. Boy Scout Wood Badge was primarily an advanced leadership training for troop leaders. Wood Badge for the 21st Century is a totally different experience. It is leadership training for all adult positions in the BSA. I urge you to sign up to attend. it will be a great ewxperience and one that will have benefits that will expand even beyongd your scouting responsibilities. Bob White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Bingham Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 I am Course Director for C-34-02. We just completed the first three days of C-34-02 and will complete the last three on Sept 7-9, 2002. This is the fourth course in the Greater St. Louis Area Council using the new syllabus. Over 200 Scouters will have completed these four courses by Sept 9, 2002. The feedback from the first three courses has been OUTSTANDING. It was my privelege to serve as ASM-Program on the second course (fall 2001) and now Course Director for the fourth course. Participants complete a detailed feedback survey on the final day of the course. The new syllabus focuses on leadership, and does it extremely well. Based on my 32 years with Monsanto Company, all in human resources, I can say that the new syllabus does a great job with leadership training. We are teaching contemporary leadership skills that progressive companies put into practice during the last five years. I encourage everyone to attend 21st Century Wood Badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scamp Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 I support Barry's assessment of Wood Badge for the 21st Century. As one of the early posters on this thread almost a year ago, and as a staff member on the first "new" course offered in our council, Wood Badge now offers advanced leadership skill training to all Scout positions. The techniques taught in 21st Century Wood Badge mirror exactly those used in the business world for the past several years. Its great to see Scouting move in that direction too! Although I felt our particular course had a little trouble integrating the Cub Scouters, I think that challenge will be overcome in time. All the experienced staff on our course were experienced Boy Scout Wood Badgers, so they were having a some difficulty fitting the new syllabus into their Wood Badge experience. It sounds like many other councils are not having that trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acco40 Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 C-34-02; C-23-02, etc. The "C" I assume is for the Central Region, the "02" obviously is for the year (2002). I have heard different answers for the "34", "23", etc. Do these numbers designate specific Councils within the regions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Bingham Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 The designation for a Wood Badge course, at least in the Central Region, is based on the following. I'll use C-34-02 as an example. The "C" does stand for the Central Region. The "02" stand for the year 2002. The number in the middle "34" represents the order the Central Region received the application from Council to conduct the course. Our course is the 34th applicaton processed by the Central Region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FScouter Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 Out here in California, there is an additional number in the sequence which is the council number where the training takes place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted August 28, 2002 Share Posted August 28, 2002 Our Class designation is NE-IV-139, NE= Northeast Region IV= We are in section 4 of the Northeast Region 139= Number of Class we are (This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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