Need CS Camp School Advice and/or Info

[Eagle92]

Ok folks I am scheduled to be at THE SUMMIT in NC for CS National Camp School this Friday. However I have yet to receive the paperwork saying what I need to bring, what prep work I need to bring, equipment, etc. I know from the last time I went to NCS, for COPE back in the day, a little prepwork goes a long way. So if anyone is going, or even staffing Can you get me the following info:

 

1) What time does it start?

2) What time will it end?

3) What supplies and equipment do I need to bring?

 

Thanks in advance.

[infoscouter]

http://srbsa.org/public/services/program/camping/2010/2010-ncs-schedule-all-regions.pdf - see p. 6

 

http://srbsa.org/public/services/program/camping/camp_school_resources/equipment-list.pdf - old but probably useful

 

http://srbsa.org/public/services/program/camping/2010/2010-ncs-broshure.pdf

[Eagle92]

Info,

Thanks for the links. I already found them and they are geared towards BS NCS, not CS NCS. HOWEVER, I am assuming, and you know where that can lead to, that some of the programing info overlaps.

 

Key questions I need to know are A) what time I need to be there and B) what time can I tell my wife to expect me home With three kids all under the age of 6, gotta know when I can take over with them; keep the wife happy

[Twocubdad]

Call region tomorrow and make sure you're registered properly or have your DE do it. 770-421-1601 Stuff happens. You should have received at least arrival instructions.

 

Generally, just based on syllabus (I don't have any info specific to your course) you will probably need to check in sometime after 8:00 Friday morning and will leave just before lunch Sunday. I know you probably have a 3-4 hour drive, so most school offer an option to arrive Thursday night. There may be a small fee to cover the extra nights stay. You should have had that information months ago.

 

You'll be given a six-inch stack of materials. Everything under the sun related to Cub Scouts. You really don't need to bring much. If you have anything specific to your camp you would like to talk about or ask questions, there will be time for that.

 

The main thing you'll need is a Class III medical (or what ever they're called now). Otherwise, bring the stuff you would to any class, notebook, pen, highlighter, etc. One thing would be cool would be a digital camera. Lots of stuff like crafts would be cool just to snap a picture rather than taking notes and making sketches.

 

A SEAT CUSHION!

 

I always bring a bag of apples or oranges to things like this. It's not that I'm a health freak, just the opposite. I'll eat all the cookies and Rice Krispie treats they put in front of me If I don't have something better.

 

Unless you're in a different facility, The Summit was rather spartan. I might throw an extra blanket and my own pillow in the car. You're between buildings, so rain gear or an umbrella.

 

 

[infoscouter]

Tried to post yesterday and had the password wrong.

 

Two Cub has it right - you may have to call. But the Southern Region office moved to Irving (along with all the other regions

 

Number is 972-580-2000

 

In addition, to the other things mentioned, I found having a few craft supplies (for a den flag) - fabric and markers. A Pow Wow book or two might be useful for theme ideas (although there will be a suggested theme)

 

Be prepared to sing, do skits, and general Cub Scout stuff.

[Eagle92]

Thanks a bunch folks. I called regional and left a message with Larry M. who accroding to the info INFOSCOUT provided is responsible for CS NCS. Just waiting to hear back from them.

 

As for the supplies, GOT IT and THANK YOU!.

[Arrowhead]

I was there February a year ago. I slept out on the screened-in porch the first night because I couldn't handle the snoring - would've been a bit more comfortable if I'd yanked a matress out there instead of sleeping on the floor.

Spartan conditions? That was the mascot where I graduated from high school! I thought the facility was great.

The turning point in my Cubmaster career was near the end of the weekend when John Morton stood up on a chair and did his rendering of the peanut butter (budder?) song. Even if you have to pay him, it'd be worth it!

I drove in at 0700 on Friday morning. The graduation ceremony was around noon on Sunday.

All you need to know is in the e-mail you should've received much earlier this week.

 

The very best regards,

Eagle 1977 (Uwharrie Council, Lodge 208)

[Eagle92]

Thanks for the help. After 3 calls to regional/national ( regional moved ya know) I got someone in TX to send me an email with the info.

 

I sure hope that isn't the only way of communicating now as my CD does not have email.

[Eagle92]

Wellif anyone is still reading tyhis threas....

 

 

I SURVIVED CS NATIONAL CAMPING SCHOOL!

 

( YEP SHOUTING IS INTENTIONAL

 

WOW that was an intense 3 days. learned a lot and now realize I have "a long way to go and a short time to get there."

 

I was "All Tuckered Out" Afterwards.

[rdclements]

Congrats and thanks for taking this on. I served several times as a CS day camp director. It was a lot of work, but thoroughly enjoyable. I recruited a large number of Boy Scouts to serve in various leadership roles. Having many older Scouts engaged had a strong positive impact on everyone involved.

 

-R

[Eagle92]

i am definatley workignon that, although I maybe in some trouble with some scouts Prior to training, I used my expereicnes back in the day and was recruiting 13 y.o. as well. NOW I find out that is a no go due to labor laws. I think I will have a few upset scouts.

 

NOW I do have a question for you expereinced folks, and I just want to confirm what I think I understand from NCS. IF a parent is staffing day camp, say a crafts director, and their 13 y.o. will be coming with them everyday, then the 13y.o. may help out their mom in her craft area, but CANNOT be a DC or program aid in another area, nor can the 13y.o. be considered staff. They are just at CSDC helping mom. Correct?

[Twocubdad]

I think you misunderstood.

 

If a volunteer has a 5-year-old, that child can be in camp as a Tot and spend the day in the Tot Lot program and probably participate in some of the age-appropriate day camp programs. Why would a 13-year-old have to stay one-on-one with their parent?

 

All my resource materials are still packed up, but I'll try to find proper references for you.

 

Boy Scouts must be 14 to be considered "staff members" in their own right. Boy Scouts ages 11-13 are permitted to be in camp only if they have a parent on staff. But, once they are they help with camp just like the older Scouts. Certainly, the Boy Scouts are assigned age-appropriate jobs. Frequently, this means the younger Boy Scouts get stuck hauling trash and water jugs. But we tried to make sure they rotate through some of the fun stuff too. We also tried to offer them at least one merit badge during the week, based on the resources and counselors we had in camp.

 

But regardless, I don't think I would want to have a bunch of 11- and 12-year-olds "working" at camp. They will require more supervision than the benefit they bring. Focus your resources on the cubs.

[Eagle92]

2Cub,

Thanks for the clarification and I may have tried tried to overcompensate the situation. Staffing is a concern of mine and I want to get it right.

 

As I said above, staffing is one of my biggest challenges. The CD hasn't done a great job in that area, and to be honest some folks do not want to work with them. Long story short, I was "voluntold" to not only redo the program, but also get more staff. We barely met standards last year, and we had less than 40 CS at camp. This year the goal is 100, so I definately need more staff! I do not want a repeat of last year with begging parents to stay the days of CSDC.

[Twocubdad]

Do you have any requirement that packs provide leadership with their cubs? Our district requires cubs to register through their packs and that the packs provide one leader (or full week equivalent) for every four cubs registered. This includes the folks already on staff (like program directors).

 

We'll make exceptions for certain packs, but generall we hold to that ratio pretty tightly.

 

Yes, you get a lot of untrained and unregistered parents who volunteer for the week, but that's fine. There are plenty of jobs as program assistants and asst. den leaders. Your day-long staff training should cover what they need to know, including youth protection.

[rdclements]

I tried to have 1 Boy Scout for each den as a den chief/guide, and then at least 2 Scouts assisting at each program area. The 2nd year Webelos had some additional activities with older scouts as part of their program. Most of the Scouts met with their adult coworkers before camp to work out their relationships.

 

A senior scout served as SPL and managed most of the scout staff members. He also arranged the flag ceremonies, found a bugler, and was basically the designated role model. He worked with me in the months before camp to assist with planning and staff assignments. By the end of day 2, my SPL was pretty much running the camp.

 

I usually tried to get a couple of dads to handle the QM duties so that the Boy Scouts would have more time with the Cub Scouts.

 

We usually run a day and an evening camp with 200-250 CS at each camp.

 

-R