Pack432Centerville Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Gold Winger is right ... even if you can sell it, you would need a way that users could convert their current data into your spreadsheet. I would assume that most Packs who would use an Advancement Computer Program already do so. Personally, I wouldnt pay for it ... and probably wouldnt use it if it were free either. I use Trax, but have customized it a lot ... I have probably made similar changes to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACK15NISSAN Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 Pack432Centerville: (try not to take offense) The program that I have written is not some customization of Trax, it is its own program completely written by me, so please do not offend by comparing adding to a program to writing one. However, I am glad that you have been able to adapt Trax to your needs, that is not what I have done, if I have made it seem so than I apologize. I simply used Trax as a basis for my design, similar setup. There is a great number of Packs that do not use computer records for achievements or advancement (at least in my area). Of those who do most use PackMaster, which does is not very user friendly or a great advancement program and not meant for the den level. I do concede to the group that it will probably not sell. I may just have to present it to my council as an example of software that will help everyone move from paper records to digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack432Centerville Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 PACK15NISSAN, no offense taken ... I misunderstood your original post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SctDad Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 PACK15 I think you are a lot like me when I come up with something. Just a day late. But if you are able to help some of the people in your council then I think you will be doing more of a service then you may know. Trax has just been around for a little while and they have made the changes You effort is there. It's a great idea. Hopefully you ca make something with it locally and work from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack212Scouter Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Or if you wind up giving it to Packs in the council, maybe someone will wind up nominating you for one of those nifty knots or awards. I know that you didn't do it for that reason, but you would certainly deserve it. I know that something like this takes considerable time and effort. ::shhhhh:: I used the dreaded "knot" reference...run...hide...be vewy quiet..... (This message has been edited by pack212scouter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basementdweller Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 Post it for download on the internet.....Post a paypal link for donation to help with development. If I download a program and find it helpful, I always donate to the author. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen_216 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 What would be of value to me and perhaps others is a program that could be interactive. I mean that once I update info others in my den could see it and be able to print out themselves. One that the parents could have access to their sons achievemtns and update themselves and perhaps a message could be generated to the den leader that an update has been done. This way if a cub missed a meeting the leadr could still see if he was on track with the others and cater their program to what the whole group needs. I spend much time comparing my records with others to see if they match. I know they are all supposed to bring their books and have them signed off but soietiems they forget and I have to write down all the itmes parents have signed off on and then go back and put on my spreadsheets. Just some suggestions to make this more enticing. Also I know there is a Fast Tracks program in testing that some councils have but I have no idea what it contaons or how similar so ther may be that in competion w/ yuo as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutNut Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Karen - Something like these? - http://www.scoutmanage.com/ http://www.scouttrack.com/ Fast Tracks is not a management program. It is a pilot program (not available nationally or part of the regular Cub program yet) BSA is looking at for Cub Scouts to give leaders step by step instructions on doing all rank requirements in the den meetings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen_216 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Yep. That's the type of thing I'd be interested in. Don't know if rest of pack would. Anyone have experience with any of these?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deerfieldmom Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 our pack uses scout manage and i like it very much. you are able to go in under den achievements and mark off all the kids in the den for what ever they did that night in one swoop or individually. it offers several reports such as ones by achievement(who has or who has not completed) or even my favorite, a to be purchased list. it also allows for doing group emails to all the members of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlabamaDan Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 My whole pack uses ScoutTrack and it rocks! No paper here. And no....I don't work for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsteele Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 PACK15NISSAN: First, let me introduce myself. I'm Frank Steele, the guy who wrote Trax. Having read your thread, I'd like to give you my take on it. First, you are trying to sell your software. I would STRONGLY urge you to reconsider this. When people give you money, you have an obligation to them. This includes people that mess up the software by removing the password, delete formulas, and then send you their software and expect you to fix it for them. This includes people who won't read the instructions and e-mail you, expecting you to be their sole-scource private tutor. This includes people who want to you customize their copy to suit their needs. This includes people who want you to enter their scout's information into the sheet because they don't think they are "computer savy." If you give it away for free, when you get unreasonable requests, you can send a quick reply and delete the e-mail. If you take their money, even a small amount, such as $10, you have a moral obligation to work with them...and it will take up all of your time. Second, you are soliciting requests for improvement and features people would like to see. I know you have a vision about what your software should be. Other people won't share your vision. Each person has their own ideas of how things need to be set up. Some will tell you that your software is too complex, and others will tell you that it is very simple, and therefore, you should add more features, adding a level of complexity. Some will tell you to combine everything together, and others will tell you to split stuff up. Your software can't be all things to all people. Don't lose sight of YOUR vision of what your software should be. Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen_216 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Frank- thanks for your hard work and constant updates. your program has made hundreds (thousands?) of leaders lives simpler!! We can spend our "one hour a week" on planning rather than paperwork!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisabob Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hear hear! Frank, I used your trax programs for a long time as a cub leader. Thanks for all the time you put into them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYMEDINC Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 My pack uses Scouttrack.com and I find it extremely easy to use and I love it. Not sure if the pack had to pay to use this, but I am guessing that they did. I only wish I could get the other Tiger Cub parents to update their kids belt loops and electives. My son has the most, not because he necessarily deserves the most. It is because I am diligent in tracking his progress. And no matter how much I plug the website in the meetings, it seems the other parents aren't updating their Tigers achievements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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