New Committee position training question

[Karen_216]

If a leader has already attended training as a leader (now has a new position CC or CM , etc, do they need to go back and attend a training for that new position?? Is it the same training as the Leader Specific training??

[Bob White]

Depends on which position you had and what position you are going to.

 

If for instance you were going from a CC (committee chair) to a CM (Cubmaster), then yes you should definitely take the job specific training.

 

Going from a CC to an MC (committee member) then it would not be required but going through the course again with a different vantage point wold likely be very useful.

[John-in-KC]

Hi Karen,

 

About 5 years ago Scouting went from a concept of "everyone trained for everything in a named program" to "position specific training."

 

There's a common core:

- Youth Protection Training

- New Leader Essentials Training

Both of those apply to every Scouter in all programs.

 

Here's the position specific stuff for the Cub program:

- Tiger Cub leader

- Cub Scout den leader and assistant

- Webelos den leader and assistant

- Cubmaster and assistant

- Pack committee members

 

If a Scouter is moving within a category (say Wolf ADL to Bear DL), he/she has the training.

 

OTOH, if a Bear DL is moving up with his/her Den to be the Webelos DL, then there's training to be taken.

 

If a Scouter is moving from the Support side (Committee) to the Prgram side (CM/ACM or DL/ADL), then there's a legitimate need for training. It's also just good enhancement to take training to understand what the other moving parts of your Pack are supposed to do.

 

Here are two pages from the National website, and they're the source of most of what I said here:

http://www.scouting.org/CubScouts/Training.aspx

 

http://www.scouting.org/CubScouts/Training/basicleader.aspx

 

Have I answered your question, Ma'am?

[Karen_216]

Thanks. I just went from DL and PAck trainer to CM and the new CC is "trained" but not specifically in that position.(although he is doing Wood Badge right now and is an Eagle Scout). We were both wondering if there was training in our specific positions and i do remember during the Leader specific portion of training that they separated Webelos leaders and CM and CC from the DLs. We're going to go back and take the Leader Specific training when it's available either during camp or in the fall now.

[John-in-KC]

I will say I remember reading recently in a piece of Scout literature that the training standard for a Pack Committee person was YP+NLE. That said, I think taking CM specific would be a help, as would BALOO.

 

Beyond that, the Boy Scout specific Troop Committee Challenge, when conducted with your whole team, can be a good teambuilding exercise.

 

You don't have to wait for training; attend your District RT and contact your friendly District Training Chair. See what is on the calendar, including in neighboring Districts.

 

If that doesn't work, a friendly call from your COR to the DE, asking for the support promised by Council in the Charter Agreement, is always a heavy-handed dime drop ... so use with some caution and trepidation

[Lisabob]

There is a specific training for pack committee members too (at least, in our council there is).

 

 

[John-in-KC]

I defer to the honorable lady from up North

[Bob White]

Thank you for the clarification Karen.

Yes, there is a Cub Leader Job Specific Course for Cubmaster and a separate Job Specific Course for Committee Chair. Call your local District Training Chair for details and dates.

 

BW

[Karen_216]

I have no problem w/ training. As trainer made it my priority to chase leaders down and get them trained.We have every den with multiple leaders trained now- first time in history I'm told. We also have multiple BALOO people and I am cold weather trained along with our CC too so we can do the wonderful Valley forge Pilgrimages in Feb next year too. (BRRRRRr). I also do enjoy the roundtables and take any handouts given. Always looking for those ideas and guidance.

We have a roundtable commisioner but our District chair is not present at RT. It just seems that certain trainings are few and far between come March or later. There are any number of New leaders essentials but no Leader Specifics. I guess I can learn the Chainsaw and Safety Afloat and all that other outdoor stuff for right now ohhh ahhhh.

and Of course learn all types of goodtips from the forum members too. I suppose council has other endevours right now- maybe focusing on other outdoor trainings.

Thanks for all the good advice.

[Vicki]

Karen, not knowing your specific geographic situation, I'll just throw this out - sometimes the training in the next council (or district, depending on the size of your council) over may fit into your schedule better.

 

Just a thought,

Vicki