OutdoorThinker Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 We've had a lot of discussion about women in Boy Scouting. Would a woman in the role of Camp Director or Program Director at your summer camp be a problem for you? I mean, obviously considering the fact that she was hired she would be qualified, maybe even had worked at the camp in previous years. Would the fact that she was a woman bother you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sm41 Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 No! it would not bother me at all. My Wood Badge course director this year is a Women. Good at what she does also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleInKY Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Nope. No problem at all. In fact, we're going to have a female program director this year. She's been Camp Director for Web Resident Camp for the past few years. She's also one of the best DEs I've ever worked with. I expect she'll be one of the best Camp Director's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrianvs Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 We have had a female program director at our camp for the last four or five years. It has worked well for us, although there is consequently a distance between the program director and the rest of staff. While some of this may be due to age differences, I feel that gender plays a role as well. I have no problem with a woman serving as program or camp director. It would seem preferrable, however, for at least one of the two to be a man. This just seems intuitively right, but the conditions at other camps may differ on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evmori Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 I wouldn't have a problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk9750 Posted February 6, 2004 Share Posted February 6, 2004 Are you hinting about potential summer employment, OT? I think there should be no problem at all. As much as I can understand the arguement some have against female SMs (I don't agreee, but I do understand), I don't see the same arguement being valid for camp staff. I bet it would be great. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilLup Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Hello Outdoor Thinker, 1) It wouldn't bother me 2) Almost a dozen years ago when my daughter was on summer camp staff, the Program Director was female. Great lady. Since that time, I am very pleased to have successfully nominated this woman for the District Award of Merit, Silver Beaver and Vigil Honor. I suspect that she is a member of one of very few families where all the members are Vigil Honor (her husband and their three sons also.) My daughter was Archery Director at camp and told me that most Scoutmasters took her at face vallue, no problems. A couple gave her some trouble. I would expect that number to have decreased substantially since then. If you want to be Program Director or Camp Director, then go for it. Put together a good summary of credentials and do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packsaddle Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I think it would be great. In my experience (and I include myself in this pejorative view) women are almost always smarter and better organized than men. But we can beat them arm wrestling, well, most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob White Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 Not a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyD Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I don't have a problem witha woman but last year we had a program director who was a woman and it didn't go too well. The vast majority of the staff didn't like her. (They didn't come out and say it but looks tell a lot) Rifle Director was gonig to quit becuase of her. Did a whole bunch of stuff that was not disscussed at any pre camp meetings with the troops/SPLs and was not mentioned in Our Camp program packet that we get each year. Also did too muh Cub Scout stuff with Boy Scouts. So we had a bad experience. As long as she would likeable and stuff I don't have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matuawarrior Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red feather Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 No problem here. yis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Old Guy Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 I'll just keep my non-PC observations to myself.(This message has been edited by Fat Old Guy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Bear Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 The proof is in the outcome. Did she hire a good staff and program director? Did she bring the staff together from the first? Did she have a great program? Was there good camp spirit and were the camp traditions observed? Did she hire a good cook staff, ones that feed the boys and the adults well? Were safety issues addressed and was the medical area covered effectively? Was the camp kept clean and in good working order? Did she address problems as they arose and solve them in a satisfactory manner? These are the same questions asked of a male at the end of camp. If she made an 80% or better, bring her around next year. The camp will prosper! FB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud Eagle Posted February 7, 2004 Share Posted February 7, 2004 If she is qualified and does the job well it would be fine. The only big plus that men have is that sometimes people seem to get some weird us/them thing with females in Scouting. Also, some men were actually participants at BSA summer camps, which could theoretically be a plus, but not all were. So in the final analysis it would work with me. On the other hand if the entire leadership of the camp was female I would start to ask a few questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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