moxieman Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 1. Yes, and I'm in favor of being able to wear it, period, if you earned it. Why? Yes, those in the organization know what the red, white, & blue square knot stands for, but those outside of scouting do not. If I could wear my Eagle Badge (there's your answer to #2--1988) at all times, it would save a lot of "Oh, you're a scout leader...are you an Eagle Scout?" A lot of youth, especially new youth, and cubbies, don't know what the knots mean either. Seeing that their leaders who are Eagles wearing their Eagle Badges would help inspire those youth. Just my three cents (inflation) worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraut-60 Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 #1 Yes...as the originator of this thread, I would like to see Eagle Scouts be able to wear the cloth insignia on the left shirt pocket from age 18-21...I feel the knot is adequate for Eagles older than 21. #2 No...I am Star Scout from 1974 (still proud to have made 1st class under the old requirements). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEPAScouter Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 1. No. 2. Yes, Eagle Class of 1979. I answered the questions as posed, but I wanted to add my two bits: a) If the Eagle rank patch *were* allowed to be worn until 21, then I'd ask why not all other ranks until 21? b) If part of the reason for some voting "yes" to question 1 is that others don't understand the significance of the square knot, then maybe it's more a question of educating others than revamping the insignia guide. A few years ago I had a scout in my troop tell me after he received Eagle two months before his 18th birthday that he was disappointed he couldn't wear his Eagle rank patch after 18. He knew there was the "tiny" (his word) knot insignia. I told him that there are many adults in Scouting who would be only too happy to wear the tiny knot if they could go back in time and do some things differently, and that he should proudly wear that knot to show he is an adult Eagle instead of a youth Eagle. I encouraged him to see the change in the patch as a further indication of his maturation into an adult who can give back to Scouting since youth CANNOT wear that knot. Some might call this "spinning," but two months later when I warmly congratulated him on becoming an adult ASM, he wanted to know where to get that knot! YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGHowes Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The 70-year old Scouter who wears his Eagle badge is not incorrect, contrary to popular opinion. In fact, Ben Love proudly wore HIS Eagle Scout patch when he was Chief Scout Executive in the 1980s - check out his photos. Unlike Star, Life, etc., Eagle Scout is not merely a "youth rank" discarded at age 18: it is a lifetime award, which is why it is appropriate for an adult of any age to say, "I am an Eagle Scout", not "I was an Eagle Scout". Besides, you're still a "youth" and not an adult in OA and Venturing until 21 anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwalston Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 "Besides, you're still a "youth" and not an adult in OA and Venturing until 21 anyway" The OA slant is irrelevant, if you are 18 or older, you must be a registered Venturer or Scouter as far as the OA is concerned. If a Venturer, then you could wear the rank badge, if a Scouter, the square knot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDPT00 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 The 70-year old Scouter who wears his Eagle badge is not incorrect, contrary to popular opinion. ** I'd love to see that one in writing. In fact, Ben Love proudly wore HIS Eagle Scout patch when he was Chief Scout Executive in the 1980s - check out his photos. ** I haven't seen such a picture, but is that meant to prove something? Unlike Star, Life, etc., Eagle Scout is not merely a "youth rank" discarded at age 18: it is a lifetime award, ** Another thing that would be interesting to see in writing. BDPT00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo1 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I agree with Beavah it's not worth fightin' over. On the other hand, 18 is 18. HooHah, set a better example. The 70 yr old guy is wearing it on a hat and not the shirt, clearly, shouldn't be worn on the hat, but he is volunteering at SEVENTY!!!! Let the old guy slide, and no, there isn't some arbitrary age to let old guys "slide", just know when to "pick your battles" Make it a great day! Hello to fellow scouter dot com posters, I've been busy over the last year! I hope to post more often, Gonzo1 "survey" 1 No 2 Yes, 1980(This message has been edited by gonzo1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Welcome back, Gonzo. We missed ya! Survey: 1. No. I think the rule should apply to all adults (>18) equally...either wear the badge or the knot, but not both. 2. Eagle class of 70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcnphkr Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I told him that there are many adults in Scouting who would be only too happy to wear the tiny knot if they could go back in time and do some things differently. I've considered leaving the middle of the bottom row empty for my "Regret Knot". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle579 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I think it should be changed and you should be allowed to wear the patch also,nothing perminent is worn in that spot as a adult, and if you earned it than you should be allowed to wear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle92 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 '579, Actually the Powderhorn badge goes there now. '92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoohaa310 Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Eagle Scout here, class of '06. As most people on here, I have more than one uniform. The uniform I wore as a youth has the Eagle Scout badge on it, simply because my mother sewed it on there and I haven't taken it off yet. I have another uniform that has the eagle knot on it because I bought it shortly after turning 18 and I got excited to wear knots. I have ANOTHER uniform that is completely blank, and thats actually the one I end up wearing most often. Do I sometimes wear my older uniform with the Eagle Badge on it? Sure do. Do the uniform police complain about it? Sure do. Do I care? not really. (the only time I would is if the camp director I work for asked me to, but he has more important things to do than than worry about if a 19yo staff member has his uniform 100% ship shape.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrat77 Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 1. Yes...and I'd expand it to allow adults who earned rank of any kind as a scout to wear their highest rank as long as they like. Why? Most scouts have no idea what those knots mean, which is probably just as well in the long run. But they respect leaders who are former scouts, regardless of what rank they earned. And I wonder sometimes at the "Eagle or Nothing" philosophy. I know many former First Class, Star and Life scouts...I would stack them up against an Eagle any day, in any aspect of scouting, specifically in dedicated service and representing scouting's ideals. 2. Eagle, 1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolesrule Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 1. No 2. Eagle, 1994 I can somewhat understand why some would argue to allow Eagle, but I still disagree with it. But other rank patches, whatever the highest? What if they were former Cub Scouts who dropped out after Bear? Should they wear the Bobcat/Wolf/Bear w/ arrow points on their uniforms if that was the highest scouting rank they earned? Rank badges are for youth to wear, not for adults to relive their scouting days or identifying with current scouts. Do you really need to wear an old rank badge to be able to talk to youth about your scouting experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutmaster52 Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 1. YES and even past. 2. Eagle 1983 Why do people look at "guides" and feel that these publications cam down from Mt. Sinai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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