Gold Winger Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 If they really want to go with a subdued look, they need to get rid of the CSPs and OA flaps. Bring back community strips in colors to match the numbers. Get rid of the big colorful position patches as well. Go back to what they used ot have, a small piece of fabric with just the symbol on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local1400 Posted November 14, 2007 Author Share Posted November 14, 2007 Gold Winger, I don't think you'll ever see the end of Strips and Flaps. $$$ for council. I too wish I still had a 70's green Scout shirt, but I can't find one in 2X. I am still holding onto my community strips in the event I ever find one. I also have community strip for msnowmans town (or at least the big mill town I think she lives in). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGrayOwl Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 I'll just wear my 1970's vintage Explorer uniform (they musta made it out of better material than the Scout stuff. It didn't shrink from non-use, hanging in the closet for 40 years ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FScouter Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 "$$$ for council." Council shoulder patches was part of a devious and nefarious plot by fat cigar-chomping evil big wigs at "council" to suck ever more money from poor innocent boys. Either that or it was an idea to avoid raising the annual registration fee to $50. I can't remember which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherhoodWWW Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Wow! I must be in the minority. I like the colorful CSP and highly colorful OA Lodge Flaps. I'd like to see a change back to the collarless shirts of the 70's. The change in colors of the unit numerals seems OK to me. A pocket on the sleeve seems not exactly useful. Bellows pocket on shirt is also IMHO not really usefull. I've not purchased the switchback pants and likely would find a zipper that lands above the knee very uncomfortable while sitting down. Nylon as a pants fabric seems to me to leave a bunch to be desired and wothless for wet weather. Cotton denim or even canvas can be treated to be waterproof. Either seems to me to be a better choice. All that said, when and if a new uniform comes out I will likely buy a new one but I will also keep wearing the current one. If my DE follows through with his plan to recruit me to be a unit commish. then I will need an additional uniform anyway. Uniform is a method and IMHO Adult leaders should toe the line and set the example. By buying a new one and also continuing the old one as long as it is servicable this can demonstrate to the youth both the method and Thrifty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Winger Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 " likely would find a zipper that lands above the knee very uncomfortable while sitting down." I didn't care for most zip-off pants but the switch-backs are pretty nice. Others that I tried had zippers that bounced on my thighs in an uncomfortable way. The Switchbacks didn't bother me in the least. I know that young people aren't bothered by wearing their crothc down by their knees and like "shorts" that are more like gauchos. However, I find that shorts that don't end at least a couple inches above my kness to be bothersome. " Either that or it was an idea to avoid raising the annual registration fee to $50. I can't remember which." Since no part of the registration fee goes to council, it couldn't be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Boys don't want shorts that end above the knee. That was my son's only objection to the switchbacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msnowman Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Local1400 - I certainly do live in a mill town, though I'm not sure I'd ever call it "big". I do wish they'd come out with the (a) new uniform before Christmas - it would make my shopping soooo much easier. YiS Michelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSScout Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 wow, so many issues, all of which we (I) have no say over. Planned obsolescence? Petroleum product cloth? vs renewable source cloth? Made in (pick a third world country)? Or in USA? Practical vs fashion? Money maker vs do we have to? Velcro? Since when is Velcro cheaper/easier than buttons? Red tabs are no longer da bomb? Gotta have green? I bet CS will be changing to tan shirts next, with blue tabs... Is this really an... improvement? National should apologize to all the thimble users and makers . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandalorianScouter Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 WOW, this is a bit new! Why do they have to change them? The uniform has been the same way before I started, so why now? If they are going to change anything, why not make switchback style pants, but out of heavy cotton? I still wear the old pants with the side cargo pockets instead of the kind they have now with front cargo pockets that look like you have abnormal bulges if you put anything in them. The shorts of this style look especially silly. Changes I think would be good for a utility/field uniform- -Tan unit patches with dark brown numbers, though I have no complaint about the red patches -District patches directly under CSPs -KEEP RED SHOULDER LOOPS!! that's what boy scouts have been for YEARS!! -Yes to bellows pockets (especially on my "heavy cotton switchbacks") + other utility pockets -At least another place for temp patches (they can wear them so why not? -Name strips (like the name plates, but not easy to catch on things!) -Production of a FIELD jacket, like the popplin jackets of ages gone by, but perhaps brown instead of bright red (the reason why most youth don't want BSA jackets!) I was going somewhere with this but forgot. I'll get back to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Why now? Because the quality, fit, and finish of the current de la Renta uniform suck pond scum. The de la Renta uniform is perfectly suitable... for Parlour Scouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
local1400 Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Don't beat around the bush John, tell us how you really feel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandalorianScouter Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I like the current style, just wish it was more "rugged" if you know what I mean. I wish we could use it in the field without pussyfooting around. They need to change it's durability and wearablity, not it's style or colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutldr Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Our OA lodge flap costs 3 bucks. Can't be much profit in that, even though they're made in China. They do change the CSP every 3 years or so...but there's no pressure to buy the new ones and replace the old ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eamonn Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 More and more I find myself wearing the uniform less and less. After a lot of heart searching, I have stepped down as Skipper, I have been asked if I'd take on being COR for the Ship? I'm thinking about it. I will be playing a more active role in the Area, Council and the District. I don't see myself rushing out to buy a new uniform anytime soon no matter how it changes. If it hits the streets before 2010 and I go to the Jamboree? I might think about it. Ea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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