scouttonyusa Posted August 10, 2000 Share Posted August 10, 2000 Is it just me or are the req. at summer camps for merit badges easier than any where else. The counselors just sign them off when you didn't finish doing all the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcarley Posted August 11, 2000 Share Posted August 11, 2000 Interesting that you bring up this subject. Are you a scout or adult leader? When I went to summer camp 30+ years ago it was a lot of time and work to get three merit badges in the week that you were there. At camp this year we had one boy get 8 and another with 7! I have been told that one scout got Aviation in about 30 minutes. I think that this is a little quick. I was unable to attend camp this summer, but I think that you are correct in your assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutmasterBob Posted August 11, 2000 Share Posted August 11, 2000 That is a matter that needs to be brought to the attention of the Camp Director. Are they scouts themselves teaching the badge? Are they at least 18yo as Merit Badge Counselors are required to be according to BSA regs? If not, why do camps get away with it and why do we as leaders have to be qualified to be a Merit Badge Counselor? Aviation is 30 mins? That doesn't do the boys any good. I work in Aviation and I wish I could have learned Bernulli's Principle alone in 30 mins. Why even have merit badges if they handed out like candy at Halloween. This is how we end up with all the 12 and 13 year old Eagles. This camp you talk of, Does the council it is located in produce an unusual amount of Eagles? My guess is, They do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouttonyusa Posted August 12, 2000 Author Share Posted August 12, 2000 I'm a scout. Thats the scary pART YOU WOULD THINK I WOULD WANT THEM TO BE EASY BUT after awhile it gets boring. I mean if you do any pre reqs, its a waste of time cause all that hard work went to waste. I mean if you go to summer camp to learn something not to have a merit badge given to you because they just feel nice that week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAScout Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 Yep! My Son got 5 this summer and wife and I had the same....doubts about the program. He brought no material home to exhibit that anything of value took place. And he talked of Scouts being the MB Councillors. I think it is a BIG problem!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_struble Posted August 18, 2000 Share Posted August 18, 2000 I agree that summer camp merit badge requirements seem to be "relaxed." I questioned my son about some of the things he did for the badges, and I don't feel comfortable that the integrity of the requirements was maintained. My son was very proud of his accomplishments, and I didn't want him to feel as though he didn't deserve the badges he thought he earned. I just don't feel he did everything he should have to get the badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle69 Posted August 25, 2000 Share Posted August 25, 2000 In my 20 years of being a SM I have seen this kind of thing before. After a couple of times I adopted a policy that the other leaders and Troop Committee would review the requirements completed as well as talk with the Scout to determine if he truly did complete things or if it was just rubber stamped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJPN2000 Posted August 29, 2000 Share Posted August 29, 2000 In our council the past few years we have started a merit badge mentoring program for our summer camp. The mentors are adult merit badge counselors who provide guidance and resources in their area of expertise. Our summer camp is made up of several subcamps and their was some concern about making sure the merit badge material was being covered thoroughly and consistently through out all of camp. The actual mentoring takes place during staff training week and starts with a breakfast and deviding of the staff up by areas to then work with the volunteer mentors for those areas. For Example: Aquatics, Ecology, Scoutcraft, Shooting Sports etc. The mentoring also involves former staff volunteering to mentor the new staff. In my experience someone under 18 can teach a merit badge as well or better than some adults. They get real good at it as the summer progresses along. The camp staff are all provided with a folder with the current merit badge requirements, previous course syllibi and a blank syllibi to taylor to their own schedule. A big part of our role as mentors is to offer encouragement, resources and handouts and to share teaching methods, ideas and props. I usually will visit the staff that I helped mentor earlier in the summer when my Troop is in camp. They really appreciate the extra help with the merit badge sessions and also constructive praise or critisism on their efforts. This summer I had a staff counselor Thank me for making his classes this summer a fun and rewarding experience. He really appreciated some additional handouts that were sent up to camp as the summer progressed along. You should always monitor the merit badge classes that your Scouts have signed up for and make sure the requirements and material along with additional outside class requirements are being followed up on by your Scouts. For example: Astronomy - Are they observing the night sky and are the conditions clear for viewing the night sky. If not then those Scouts should end up with a partial in Astronomy merit badge. I hope this helps with improving merit badge standards at your summer camps for next year. Your camp director needs to support this effort along with having area directors 18 or older to sign the actual merit badge cards for the underage counselors in their areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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