John-in-KC Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 wingnut, That would help in getting the Scout to Life, but the Eagle app itself calls for PORs held at each rank. I've not encountered a situation where the Eagle Scout Service rejects an app for this kind of error ... even if the EBOR bought in. I have to wonder when the last time was the SM and the District Advancement Chair had a friendly cup of coffee about kids reaching for Eagle... Anyone been here before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcnphkr Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 That would help in getting the Scout to Life, but the Eagle app itself calls for PORs held at each rank. Are you looking at an old application? The current one states for requirement 4: "List only those positions served after Life Board of Review date." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 jet, You were right. I was thinking of the tenures on the front side. That said, I'm doing the happy dance. National FINALLY has the eagle app so it can be saved and edited. ALLELUIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila calva Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 This is a Star Scout who thought he had become a Life Scout last July, nine or ten months before his 18th birthday. He may well have thought he had all the time he needed to earn Eagle. It seems clear that this troop has adult leadership challenges, and the scout needs some help with paying attention and planning ahead. This troop wasnt helping much with that effort. If the scout really wants to give it a try, he can take his story to the District Advancement Chair and perhaps to the District Chair. Make his case and see where it leads. He needs a one or two month extension on his POR requirement. This is not impossible, is it? He may need to find another troop, with a different SM, to help him get it all figured out. There are lots of ifs in this story that only someone close to the situation will be able to figure out. Let us know what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Aquila, For what you described, much depends on how much flex the District and Council Advancement Committee believe they have. I think most Councils are going to think they do not have much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubScoutJo Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Bugler is listed as a POR for Star and Life, but it isn't listed for Eagle. Is it an error of omission or is bugler the only POR allowed for lower ranks that is not allowed for Eagle? Jo Also, what about a POR that the scout has done "in name only" for the entire time he has had the job. If the Scoutmaster signs off on his book, then I'm assuming the committee must approve.(This message has been edited by CubScoutJo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavah Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 Bugler is listed as a POR for Star and Life, but it isn't listed for Eagle. Is it an error of omission or is bugler the only POR allowed for lower ranks that is not allowed for Eagle? It's not an omission. Bugler isn't allowed for Eagle POR. Also, what about a POR that the scout has done "in name only" for the entire time he has had the job. If the Scoutmaster signs off on his book, then I'm assuming the committee must approve. The reason there's a committee is as a check and balance on the SM, eh? If da committee in a BOR really doesn't feel the lad has met the requirements, they are honor-bound to say "no." The SM may choose to appeal on da boys behalf, and the district or council or Irving may agree and award the rank. None of that changes the committee's duty to call it like they see it, and be honest about whether the boy has fulfilled da requirements. Beavah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortridge Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 That said, I'm doing the happy dance. National FINALLY has the eagle app so it can be saved and edited. ALLELUIA! Now if only it'd do that for the membership application... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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