Eagle project dispute

[scoutmomma]

What a mess.

 

http://tinyurl.com/3k4j77

 

http://tinyurl.com/4pk5pd

 

http://tinyurl.com/4lh7et

 

http://tinyurl.com/4quv2v

 

http://tinyurl.com/4rlle5

 

[evmori]

Interesting! Wonder what he didn't do?

[shortridge]

Sounds like a solid project with a great focus on expanding outdoors access and opportunity.

[skeptic]

Frankly, based on the info given, the young man's project was more than required, and overall very successful. It is truly a shame that public officials, more often than known, have power trips at the expense of well meaning or even diligent efforts of volunteers and community groups.

 

In our own area, I have seen projects demeaned and destroyed by "authorities", after approvals and glowing reports initially. The excuse often is that they were not safe; yet, rather than take what appeared to be minor remediation to fix the safety issues, they simply destroyed them.

 

It would not surprise me to find that this is more common than we would like to think.

[Bob White]

If all the information in the articles provided here are accurate (and that is a big IF) then the project itself is not a problem. However the scout (if the facts of the article are correct) did not meet the requirements for the rank.

 

The requirements are very clear. The scout must have ALL the signatures required for the project plan and have it approved by a representative of the District or Council Advancement committee BEFORE he begins work on the project.

 

According to the scout leader in the article the written proposal was not done prior to beginning and so there is no way that the scout had the signatures prior to starting. He di not meet the requirements set by the BSA for ALL Eagle Scout projects.

 

As wrong as the chairman of the commissioners board was, he id not the problem in this matter. It would appear that the Scout did not follow the requirements before he started the project.

 

That is very unfortunate.

 

If this is the case the council should hold the bor and explain to the scout in writing why he is not being advanced and provide him the steps to take should he wish to mount an appeal.

 

 

 

 

[Gold Winger]

Everyone is up in arms because the town has issues. How dare the town say anything negative about a 17 year old boy.

 

I'm with Bob on this one, if the requirements aren't met, the Scout shouldn't get his Eagle. It's not the town's fault or the commissioner.

 

Hundreds of Scouts follow the rules for Eagle every month, where is the fairness for them is another Scout doesn't have to follow the process?

 

Alas, we now live in a world where "trying hard" is supposed to be considered the same as doing.

 

"Do or not do, there is no 'try.'"

[OldGreyEagle]

Actaully the "quote" ran

 

"No. Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try."

 

Quotation marks mean, of course, an exact duplication and this is more of a paraphrase

[GernBlansten]

Seems the scout over promised and under delivered. If he couldn't do everything he proposed, he should have submitted an ammended project plan.

[Gold Winger]

OGE, who are you quoting?

[OldGreyEagle]

Yoda, who were you quoting?

[Gold Winger]

My grandmother.

 

Yoda? Doesn't quoting fictional character portrayed by puppets put you into a whole new category of nerdiness?

 

Next you'll be quoting Lambchops or Topogigio. :-)

 

 

[evmori]

Good night Eddie~

[frank10]

"I'm a real boy!"

[Gold Winger]

I'm glad for you. :-)(This message has been edited by Gold Winger)

[CalicoPenn]

My hunch is that we'll see another article in this paper with a headline that reads "Boy Scout Receives Eagle Award Despite Conservation Commission".

 

Just from a public relations viewpoint alone, I think it's likely the Council will find some way to make sure the BOR is done, and prevent this fiasco from not just ensnaring the conservation commission, but the Council too. My guess is that the paperwork will either be miraculously pre-dated or that the Council will announce that the original project had been approved with all the paperwork signed, and that this was merely a change in the plans, and not a new project, and so therefore the project proceeded under those signatures, after having been discussed with the District representative.