Double Eagle

I've been using a Magellan 315 for the past 8 years. Although older and hard to find now, its pretty user friendly and can be found for under $100.00 on Ebay. I've used mine in Canada, Egypt, Israel, Kuwait, Iraq, Panama, Germany, and Switzerland. I really get around and don't go anywhere without it. A useful toy when not desperately traveling.

What did the SPL and patrol leaders council decide would be done for infractions like these. In the boy-led program, they should get first crack at fixing the problem. If it goes beyond them or is a safety issue adults should intervene immediately. Having a SM on the PLC side is the leverage to get some to conform. If the SPL is expected to lead in fun times, he has to lead during rough times too. You weren't too tough.

OGE, that's the one. One of my favorites. Bob, Scout on scout, scouter on scout, scouter on scouter; The interaction of youth to adult can be merged with all participating. Several previous posts suggest coming up with the mythical object. With the help of the adults, many scouts have turned the tables and surprised the jokesters.

BTW, can anyone help me with the problem of getting my replies cut off and only post what I can see in the message box?

Humor has a place in scouting. "An hour a week" is a prime example. The intent of hazing has no place in scouting, agreed. Joking without harming feelings can be difficult. Some of the songs at camp are gross, ie "sausage machine". I like the song even though it is talks of grinding cats and dogs. Lets not label all jokes as hazing, good judgement calls by scouters role model and instill good judgement in scouts(This message has been edited by Double Eagle)

With the information provided, it sounds like the boys would be better in another pack and let the pack fold. This should not be the concern of the DE or unit commissioner. For the sake of the boys and helping to deliver a promise, their scouting experience outweighs any loyalty to keeping an unsupported/unresourced pack around. I hope another pack is near enough to take care of the scouts.

Eamonn does give you a reference about use of liguid fuel, pages 33 & 34. Not prohibited but guidance is given. This is similiar to sheath knifes in myth. Not prohibited by national but careful consideration is needed, page 43; "Avoid large sheath knives...". Some councils put additional restrictions on items outlined as ok by the GTSS.

Check with home depot or Lowes. They usually cut wood to order and have a lot. Just take your bag or bucket and fill up.

Help, My longer replies are getting cut off when I submit them. Any help. This hasn't happened before in the 100+ replies.

I've dealt with a situation similiar to this, about $2,000. We verified with receipts how much the leader owed. We notified the COR after a emrgency committee meeting was held. The committee decided that the leader, who admitted to the incident, would pay the amount owed by a certain date. The leader paid in portions and a receipt was made with each payment. When the incident first came to light, we drafted a memo of agreement of the incident. This also served(This message has been edited by Double Eagle)

Continued from the previous reply: I had an older scouter ask for a smoke shifter and we brought back one disguised as a frisbee. Fanned in the left hand, it was left handed. Fanned in the right, right handed. Canvas coolant came back as a bucket of water. The jesters became shocked when we actually produced the mythical items. It soon became an imagination challenge on both sides. Good fun done with good intentions.

For better or worse here's a few: 50 feet of shoreline, canvas coolant, turning off a chemical light by snapping it again, box of grid squares, left-handed smoke shifter, 100 feet of flight line, right-handed cresent wrench, left or right handed knife, fork, spoon, or cup. Whether used as a joke or not, you would be amazed at what a scout or scouter brings back. Sometimes it backfires on the requester. I had an older scouter

What a great opportunity. I'm sure you'll be swamped with requests. The biggest question I would expect is availabililty of sizes. I'm interested in a couple for around that price.

As a member of TAC, I know where to send you for the Europe stuff that includes segments around the TAC activity (Termporary) patch. Check out the www.tac-bsa.org website for contact info. As one receiving from a feeder pack, a better solution of what is still left on may be to visit the gaining troop and check out the stuff. I don't think that a scouter would deliberately tell you the wrong thing, but maybe they were focusing unit stuff and not the universal uniform stuff.

Use this as a rule. Wear the OA sash only over the right shoulder and no where else. If worn, wear it at OA specific events as acco40 stated. The merit badge sash should only be worn over the should too. Many scouts wear the OA and/or merit badge sashes on belts, please help prevent this. If you need actual reference publications or references for this, I'll research if needed. The OA pocket flap covers any OA/lodge affiliation during non-OA functions such as COH, BOR, and even Eagle BOR.

Dry ice chips from a car and body shop work too. This is how many hail damage dents are popped out. Just take the canteen to the shop and they may do it on the spot and/or free.

My take on the sheath knife and it's bad reputation is due to two things. First, scouts with poor quality sheaths often had/have the blade puncture or slice through the plastic or synthetic covering. Good leather can't be substituted. Second, too few experienced scouts and scouters were wearing them properly. Often wearing them towards the front of the belt and stuck them while bending or squating. They should be worn towards the rear on the hip. I still have many and use them while hunting. I don't use them in scouts but love them just the same. My rule is for scouts is that the blade should not be longer than the palm of your hand is wide.

Eagle patrol! This made me a double eagle, the first being an eagle scout.

Absolutely. Here is a great chance to show the process for earning a merit badge too. It really works on newer scouts that may not be confident in the process. It is only another way for the Scoutmaster to teach. Just a thought about how a Scoutmaster is not a "know-it-all", but a master of scouting skills.

We are the "grumps". Not only for our supposed disposition but for grown-ups.

We are the "grumps". Not only for our supposed disposition but for grown-ups.

I always have one, my wife carries her's in her purse. She even has one of the old camping models with the fork and spoon and a zillion other things that fits in a leather pouch. The old time scouts will remember the type. My sons and scouts carry one all the time safely. No problem. I'm amazed that the Michigan that I grew up in is so scared of the knives and not the personalities that yield one or some other dangerous tool.

I have two Gerbers, a normal leatherman, and a super. My latest and recommendation is the Wave. It has the best of them all. Try it and you'll like it.

Program features under a monthly theme have some good ideas for planning. Or the old Woods Wisdom.

I still use liquid fuels. I use stoves from the whisperlite to coleman. My seasoned scouts like these and the junior scouts like the propane. Propane has a problem in the cold. When using the stoves on snow, a piece of 6"X6" plywood or closed cell foam mat work well for a base and barrier from the snow. What I like best is that I can use the always-available fuel for the lanterns also. When backpacking, its easier for each scout to carry a fuel container than sticking a propane bottle in a pack for the entire trip. Refillable rules.