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Kudu, Thanks yes we have both those books plus several very old versions my husband has picked up from different places. I'm not really worried about the "Patrol method" or who will lead a group of new scouts. Natural leaders all ways rise and the rest come forward after they get their feet wet and get more confidence. Plus if we start a new troop we have a couple of older scouts who wish to come with as they have had enough of politics as usual. My concern is setting up the dynamics of it so when the boys come into a new troop it's already strong with support not control. I have done quite a bit of research and will be ready to address this issue with our CO within the next month. Wish me well everyone!!

Hi LiBob, Thanks for your input but to be honest I'm not looking to join yet another troop and sit in on their committee. I have been on the Iron-fist troop's committee and know how it works and how it's supposed to be run. I have been trained several times over, read SM Handbook, committee handbooks, woods wisdom, the boy scout handbook and several other books out there to know that the way our current troop committee does things is backwards. Plus parents should not ask to have their son be picked as a PL or any other leadership position. SPL is to be picked by all the boys in the troop at an election, PL(s) are chosen by the boys in their respected patrols. To do so any other way is getting away from being boy lead and will lead to dissension amongst the other boys. Not what I am looking for.

We already have a pack, our CO is looking to start a troop so the boys when crossing over would go right to the CO's troop instead of going outside the CO and finding another troop.

I will but I wanted to know the procedure first so at least I and everyone else can walk in with both eyes open. Thanks - yes we do have the SM handbook and Committee book and woods wisdom. Most of us are already trained from being in the iron fist troop. We tried very hard to change it but no go - that is why we are looking to start a new troop, where boys can become leaders like it was meant to be. I don't want to call the DE yet (I know him personally) until we decide what & when we are doing. Trying to keep the flack down as much as possible and don't want the boys to catch any flack from the adults as traitors, etc.. Yea that would happen. All we want to do is give the boys a chance to do scouting BP's way, and a safe haven to mess up and figure out how not to mess up or fix the problem when they do mess up. All info is greatly appreciated!! Thanks!

Thanks Eagle92, Where do I get that brochure from our local scout store or is it available online?

Hi all! Our group of cubs are thinking of starting our own troop. There are 2 troops in the area but the 1 my son belongs to is committee run, no matter how hard the boys & scoutmaster try to make it boy-run the committee pulls out the iron fist. The other troop is no better. I have briefly discussed it with the Elders of my church and can get them on board but I need to know what exactly do we need to do this. Has anyone out there started a troop from scratch and give me some pointers. I don't want to start just to fail. Thanks for the help!!