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Scouting Forward: A Plan to Lead Announced
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Well, it looks like the youth adolescence expert must not yet have turned 18. -
"Establish minimum standards to be considered a council"
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Council Relations
I think two likely standards will be: (1) No debt; (2) summer camps consistently generate an operating surplus. -
Scouting Forward: A Plan to Lead Announced
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Looks mostly like administrative tidying up -- much of which should have been done long ago. Innovative? Visionary? Well, they are combining the National Annual Business Meeting and the Top Hands Meeting. 🤪 It is quite a boring document, really. Not Churchillian. But, it is pure BSA. For example: "Create a membership executive position within councils focused on growth and paid on performance." How many hundreds of times has that been tried in councils all across the United States over the last forty years of declining membership? Maybe tens of thousands, if you count District Executives and Field Directors. Survival of the Boy Scouts of America is entirely dependent upon membership growth, but the folks from the National level all the way down to councils and even districts simply can't grasp the notion that they are powerless to do anything about membership growth,** despite more than forty years of contrary evidence. Retaining youth who are already Scouts and attracting youth who are not currently Scouts is entirely dependent upon how well the local moms and dads who are the unit adults execute an active, interesting, challenging Scouting program with a strong outdoor component. If BSA decided to create an executive position within councils focused on inspiring unit adults, then maybe they would be on to something. ** BSA National initiatives, policies, and program changes have caused significant membership losses over the years, however. -
Scouting Forward: A Plan to Lead Announced
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Open Discussion - Program
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To cut way back on the number and styles of uniform parts and insignia that BSA has to produce, distribute, and maintain in inventory, I'd suggest: The same color and style of shirt for all programs. No epaulets, no shoulder loops, only cloth badges/patches with no backing so they are easy to sew on The only insignia allowed are the BSA and Council name strips (lettering only), World Scout badge (without Messenger of Peace ring or other embellishment), unit numeral, den/patrol patch, rank badge, position patch, OA arrow strip All insignia are at least one-third smaller than current badges/patches No official pants / shorts / skirts / skorts; no official belts, socks, or hats No sashes; merit badges one-third smaller than current size, may be sewn on neckerchiefs One Cub Scout neckerchief color for all grade levels Cub Scout adventure pins and belt loops become cloth badges sewn on neckerchiefs Other awards currently worn on uniform may be sewn on neckerchiefs To cut way back on the number of publications that BSA develops, produces, distributes, and maintains, I'd suggest: All publications are electronic, printable on demand The contents of all existing publications are broken down into these collections: Youth member "how to" information for each program; youth leader "how to" information (Scouts BSA, Venturing, Sea Scouting only); adult leader "how to" information for each program Eliminate all duplication and as much inconsistency as possible from each collection Convert what is left so that at least 90 percent of each collection is in the form of (a) checklists, (b) step-by-step instructions, and (c) diagrams or illustrations; with the remaining 10 percent or less limited to text, but with no single block of text containing more than seventy-five words
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The need to stock blue shirts and tan shirts in the same sizes, and the need to stock green shirts and tan shirts in the same sizes.
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How about using the same color shirt across all programs?
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If adults have position patches and youth have rank/award patches that reveal their program, do we need shoulder loops at all?
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Suppose that one of the effects of the BSA's current difficulties is a determination that it is too expensive on an ongoing basis for BSA to develop, produce, maintain, and update all of the various versions of BSA uniforms, accessories, insignia/badges/etc., handbooks, other publications, and program supplies and equipment currently in the BSA catalog. You are asked what "stuff" could be eliminated or slimmed down without changing any substantive aspect of the current program (such as rank requirements, adult positions, different programs, etc.). What would you recommend?
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The Improved Scouting Program; STEM Scouts; NOVA awards; ATVs at summer camp; a "Tech Center" at summer camp; "Cub World" summer camps; merit badge clinics/universities; "Leadership" as an addition to the Aims of Scouting and the purposes of the Order of the Arrow; Soccer and Scouting; Explorer Clubs; Journey to Excellence; "Scout" as a rank; geocaching; the Summit; uniforms designed for indoor and ceremonial wear only; . . . to name a few. It is not about detracting from the goals of Scouting (although some do). It is about pouring resources into things that don't really matter and ignoring what really does matter.
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Another sad reminder that the only way to grow Scouting is organically: strengthening existing units so that they grow and give birth to strong new units that grow. And the only way that happens is through active, high-performing units with strong outdoor programs. Those units attract and retain youth without gimmicks and without flavor-of-the-week activities. If BSA at all levels would stop tinkering with the program content and new faddish programs and focus on improving delivery of the existing program by existing units, membership will grow.
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BSA's Commitment to Act Against Racial Injustice
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
As soon as BSA said, "this is what we're going to do," anything else BSA had say was irrelevant. All that matters is what BSA is going to do, and what it is going to do is next to nothing: a merit badge, a class, a review of names. -
BSA's Commitment to Act Against Racial Injustice
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
BSA must be willing look to its own house, and identify any aspects of its organization, operations, and program that could be considered discriminatory or racially insensitive or belittling, or a cultural misappropriation, or a condition that -- however unintentionally -- results in exclusion or inequality in access to or benefits of the Scouting program. That would mean looking at things like: Rates of earning Eagle Scout rank by race, ethnicity, religion, sex, national origin, etc. The use of Native American / Indigenous Peoples themes in the Order of the Arrow and in every other aspect of the program. The Declaration of Religious Principle. Whether any Chartered Organization can exclude any person from a sponsored unit. As @MattR has noted, the presence of Scouting units within various communities, and a full analysis of where Scouting units are found, the demographics of those communities, the types of chartered organizations in those communities, and the demographics of BSA members. The cost of participation in Scouting programs in comparison to income levels in communities where Scouting is found and not found. The burden placed on parental time by the Scouting program, and whether Scouting is more prevalent in two-parent families, single-income families, single-job families, etc. Correlation between the presence of Scouting units and school quality. And more. -
BSA's Commitment to Act Against Racial Injustice
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Something much more like this: https://www.scouts.org.uk/news/2020/june/a-statement-from-chief-scout-bear-grylls/ A statement of support; of the idea that justice, empathy, and peace are part of the very fabric of Scouting; that these events reinforce the necessity for each Scout, each Scouter, each unit, each Council, and every other component of the Boy Scouts of America to ensure that we are living and acting every day in accordance with those principles. It must be deep, open-ended, and continuing. By responding with steps that are minor -- a merit badge, a sensitivity class, a review of property names -- BSA is saying that the underlying racial issues are minor. And that is coming from an organization that just a few years ago was seen as one of the biggest advocates of discrimination and exclusion in America. -
BSA's Commitment to Act Against Racial Injustice
dkurtenbach replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
So we're going to introduce a new MERIT BADGE???!!! Could there be a more trivial response to murder, anguish, and heartbreak? -
A lot of negatives in the media, is scouting in danger?
dkurtenbach replied to Double Eagle's topic in Issues & Politics
Cub Scouts: $$ - uniforms, handbooks, badges, pins, belt loops, parental presence, adult supervision. Scouts BSA: $$$ - uniforms, handbooks, badges, pins, sleeping bags, backpacks, personal gear, troop camping gear and supplies, adult supervision, transportation, hiking trails or routes, campgrounds. Both: progressive development of skills and experience over long periods of time via the rank system, often operated on planned timelines to complete all of the requirements for a particular badge within a certain number of months. BSA Scouting has become very "heavy" with all of the stuff needed to run a standard program. It is also, on its face, very complicated with all of the ranks and requirements and awards spanning a wide variety of topics -- before you even get to the merit badge program. And, particularly in Cub Scouts, if you miss some meetings or activities, it is difficult to "catch up" to complete the requirements for the rank badge. So much easier to go play some basketball or soccer (minimal equipment, not many rules) -- while learning about teamwork and fairness and sportsmanship. -
I think of it like a rental unit in an apartment complex: plenty of room to change the furnishings and decor, but don't start knocking down walls.
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To introduce my nominee for a sacred cow to be sacrificed: I don't think that BSA's biggest problem is the sexual abuse liability, the bankruptcy, the pandemic, or membership standards. I believe that units with well-trained leaders and active outdoor programs attract and retain youth members. I think that the biggest problem BSA has is that a large share of its Cub Scout and Scouts BSA units are not delivering their programs in a way that attracts non-Scout youth or that holds the interest of youth already in the program. The result is ever-declining membership. I don't think it is the fault of the unit adults. It is the fault of BSA for not setting standards for the process and results of unit program delivery, training the adults in those standards, and ensuring that the standards are met by units. It is the fault of BSA for not caring whether each of its thousands of "stores" is selling a quality product that people want to buy. With that, my nominee for sacred cow to be sacrificed is: The notion that it is okay, or even desirable, for every unit to be different and have its own personality and operate in a way that "works best" for its members. It is not the purpose of Scouting to create diverse units with different personalities; units are simply delivery systems. What matters is whether each individual Scout is being given the growth opportunities the Scouting program is designed to provide. No unit has the right to give a Scout an experience that is less than what is described in the official handbooks, leadership materials, training syllabi, and policy guides for each age level. The only way for BSA to retain existing members and attract new members is for each unit to strive to be closer and closer to the model.
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A lot of negatives in the media, is scouting in danger?
dkurtenbach replied to Double Eagle's topic in Issues & Politics
My concern is that BSA after bankruptcy will be very different organizationally and financially, but will carry on with no real changes to Cub Scouting or Scouts BSA. That is, steady membership loss will continue. The pandemic is a big problem but is a distraction from BSA's biggest problem. The bankruptcy is a huge -- indeed, existential -- problem, but is neither a result of nor a symptom of BSA's biggest problem. BSA's biggest problem is not the substance and content of the program at the Cub Scout and Scouts BSA levels. It is that BSA is not delivering the Cub Scout and Scouts BSA program at the unit level in a way that attracts non-Scout youth and in a way that holds the interest of youth already in the program. -
BSA National? In the words of Lem Siddons (Follow Me, Boys!): "They'll gum everything up." It needs to start on the local level, with some older Scouter friends getting together -- without youth -- to show each other outdoor skills, take hikes, and sit around campfires enjoying each others' company. Then they invite some of the younger Scouters in. It's not long before they are setting up model campsites at IOLS sessions and camporees, teaching whittling and map reading and how to cook foil dinners -- and telling tall tales. Eventually someone asks them, "Who are you folks? What is your group called?" They look at each other for a second, then they all point to some doo-dad they are each wearing, and one of them explains, "We're Rovers. We roam around the trails and campgrounds." Another pipes up, "Sort of like Gandalf the Grey." A third says, "Or the Ghost of Scouting Past." And the first one says, "Bringing the magic of Scouting. Real Scouting." It doesn't need a handbook. Maybe just a sheet of paper with three double-spaced lists: The Principles of Rovering; Things Rovers Should Do; and Links to Resources on the Outdoors, Scouting Skills and Knowledge, and Scouting Fun Stuff. But just like Scouting for Boys did so long ago, maybe those three brief lists, distributed on some Scouting forum, could be the spark that gets a lot of Scouting adults to start doing what they are naturally inclined to do anyway.
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"One-and-done" rank requirements and their partner in crime, the "no re-testing" rule, are so ingrained in our advancement-centered Scout culture that they will never be changed. The only way to keep Scouts current in their skills is through practice and competition. Now, suppose an adult Rovering organization were to catch on, with BPSA-like "skill proficiency" badges that required annual or bi-annual re-testing. The pride of the Scouter/Rover adults in their skills, and the cool badges to accompany them, could inspire (what else?) more new non-advancement awards that youth could earn - and re-earn on a regular basis. As I see it, the real value of a Rover organization would be the ability of adults to shed their leader responsibilities for a little while to gather together and be Scouts, to practice patrol method and focus on outdoor skill development, and along the way train new adult leaders by example and hands-on practice and war stories around a campfire.
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Major Changes Announced -- Councils Impacted
dkurtenbach replied to Cburkhardt's topic in Issues & Politics
It's a question of character. Many people believe that conservation and environmental stewardship is a fundamental moral obligation. As an ostensibly "outdoor" organization, an organization increasingly interested in promoting science, and an organization focused on the development of future generations, BSA is ideally positioned to be a leader in this area. If it chose to do so, BSA could show the public that it is a serious organization with a serious mission that directly affects the modern world. And that it is not just a dwindling, old-fashioned after-school activity in which kids dress up in cute uniforms, wave the flag, and collect colorful badges. -
Major Changes Announced -- Councils Impacted
dkurtenbach replied to Cburkhardt's topic in Issues & Politics
I hope that being back on topic is not the kiss of death. 🤪 Baden-Powell developed a game with a purpose. Now we seek to preserve the game in order to continue fulfilling the purpose. Before BSA decides to "pivot from valuing the past," like the outdoor program, or sacrifices the outdoor program as a "sacred cow" no longer relevant to a couch-sitting, screen-watching society, let's consider how we might keep it: How do we take urban and suburban youth (and parents) who have no use for camping and hiking (if they even knew how) and lure them out into the wild? These days, youth with controllers in hand or virtual reality goggles on heads can have all of the adventure they desire without the inconvenience of getting cold, wet, or dirty. If they seek physical activity, there are team and individual sports of all kinds readily available to them, both indoors and outdoors on grass or artificial turf fields. It is difficult for our Scouting game of camping and hiking and related outdoor activities to compete. Just as we tucked Scouting's purpose within Scouting's outdoor game, maybe we could tuck that game with a purpose into some other kind of bait to attract youth and families. Something that they already know about (so we don't have to educate them on it). Something universally accepted as important and urgent (so we don't have to sell it). Something that is missing from their video games and youth sport leagues and schools (a hole in their lives). Something where they can make an immediate and concrete difference (join now). Such as, a cause. A cause historically compatible with the values and traditions of the Boy Scouts of America. A cause that requires youth to be outdoors for extended periods of time so that, while pursuing that cause, they experience camping and hiking. And in experiencing camping and hiking, they learn the things that Scouts have always learned from the outdoors. That cause, of course, is the environment: protecting it, conserving it, saving it, cleaning it up, improving it. And it has many different facets: learning how it works (STEM, environmental science), projects that make an immediate difference in a park or community such as stream cleanups (service), helping when things go wrong (emergency response, search and rescue, disaster relief), protecting and preserving endangered species (zoology) or endangered cultural sites (history, archaelogy) or endangered communities (civil engineering, geology), and on and on. What I am suggesting is that in order to preserve the outdoor program as an important tool for developing citizenship, teamwork, responsibility, etc., that we stop talking about outdoor activities, skills, and adventures as our program objective. Instead, our program objective becomes the preservation and protection of our environment. And in pursuit of that objective, we do as much hiking and camping and canoeing and climbing as ever -- and have just as much fun as ever. But we have that additional layer of a serious reason for going out there that no one can object to or ridicule, and that inspire youth to join us at any age (no need for a Cub Scout resume) or can induce some pangs of guilt for not joining us. And because this would be a serious effort by BSA in a universally-recognized important cause, it could help rebuild BSA's reputation. Just a thought. -
Major Changes Announced -- Councils Impacted
dkurtenbach replied to Cburkhardt's topic in Issues & Politics
Much of traditional Scouting is not at all dangerous, and as @Sentinel947 notes, can be carried on effectively in the presence of adults, as long as the adults exercise restraint. I sometimes wonder if the differences between the Boy Scout program of 1970 (before the Improved Scouting Program) and the Scouts BSA program of today are really differences at all. Or are they just the result of changes in technology, transportation, and family practices that don't really matter once we get the youth out to a camp or hiking trail? Is the difference that it is just harder today "to wean them from indoors and to make the outdoors attractive to them"? Is the real issue that we are stuck in the practices of the past and just lack the creativity to lure today's youth outdoors? My concern is that in deciding what traditions are "useful" and what programs "our customers most value," the decision makers will be like the city Scoutmaster whose troop never went on hikes because staying indoors is what they were used to. That is, they mistake "comfort zone" for "relevance" and consider traditions and activities that would take youth and families out of their comfort zones to no longer be relevant or to have no value to our customers.