Thanks so much for you input and suggestions- i have had some training i was very involved when my son was in Tiger scouts, as it stands right now there is an assistant Den leader for the den- unfortunatly for as much as the den leader doesnt have control over the boys the assistant more or less just has scream bouts(and i mean scream to scare the boys) when the boys dont listen - i was always under the impression that the hand sign should be used to settle the boys? any way - i am hoping that i can incorporate a "gathering activity" for the beginnign of the mtg to get them settled while waiting for all the boys and hopefully incorporate snack into the end of the mtg:)
i jsut dont want to step on toes or seem like i am taking control - i just want the den leader and assistant den leadder to be able to effectivly work with the boys - and i think having a "den mom " there to corral them in the beginning and to keep them in line with the thought of maybe a snack at the end of the mtg should help:)
thanks again for all the advice - this site seems like a wealth of information!!!!