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homosexuals that lead a "normal" lifestyle the gay community can differentiate the mainstream from the fringe. There is no such thing, the practice of perversion can never be normal or mainstream. Monogamous incestuals and bestials can live a normal lifestyle too, can you explain how they are any less moral? so do we condemn all blacks? Race, color or gender are all innate, they are born that way. Why is a chosen behavior the same? But the same is true for heterosexuals Not true, can you please tell me how a normal man/woman relationship and the practice of homosexuality are alike?

I myself am a survivor from one of these perverts This is among the most heinous crimes on this earth. I cant possibly express my sadness and sorrow for you and your lost childhood and innocence, I pray the Lord has given you the strength to live your life without its burden. and he was NOT homosexual. If he diddled little boys he be gay, dont drink the Kool-Aid of their propaganda.

Bob, youre welcome to disagree but you really havent offered any logical explanation or incongruence, other than your opinion, why incest or bestiality isnt morally equal to homosexuality. a relationship between a 45-year old man and a 12-year old girl is wrong today although I am sure that historically this was once looked at differentlyUmmthat is called pedophilia and a completely different topic. However, I respect your viewpoint, and do not view you as immoral or "meanspirited" (I hate the use of that term) for holding your views. Thank you, I do not view you as immoral either because not everyone wants to completely understand how base and repugnant their choice of behavior really is. Its more convenient to believe the practice as innate rather than as free will. Also, I do not view you as stupid (I hate the use of that term) for holding your views. I would rather have committed relationships of homosexual couples accepted. What about committed incestual or bestial relationships, why cant they be just as equal? Instead, let's object to harmful relationships and sexual practices. Why is incest or bestiality anymore harmful? Of course I would include your examples of bestiality and incest, and include general irresponsibility such as mate swapping, swinging, etc. You have two mutually exclusive and contradictory groups here. Multiple partners and promiscuity arent equivalent to monogamous incestual and bestial relationships. I would rather allow gays/lesbians to marry, and encourage such committed relationships, so that the gay/lesbian community can then object to the immoral portions of their communities, the bath houses and in-your-face shows of sexuality, etc. Why cant there be inter family and animal marriages (though there is no real need for animals because they dont have rights) so that the incestual and bestial community can judge the immorality of incestual or bestial bath-houses and in-your-face shows of sexuality, etc? The sad thing is Bob, and I hope you can appreciate that I don not support incest and bestiality in any way, shape or form, is that it can be morally justified in each and every way homosexuality can be justified. There is no moral difference.

--You felt you won a moral victory when BSA brought back knee high socks. I want the tabs back too!!!CD that was very funny.

This is for you home schoolers! Rules for Writing Good 1. Each pronoun agrees with their antecedent 2. Verbs has to agree with their subjects. 3. Don't use no double negatives. 4. A writer mustn't shift your point of view. 5. Don't use a run-on sentence you got to punctuate it. 6. Avoid redundancy. 7. Don't repeatedly reiterate over and over. 8. About sentence fragments. 9. Don't use commas, which aren't necessary. 10. Don't abbrev. 11. Check to see if you any words out. 12. Eschew esoteric verbiage. 13. Computer spell Czechs are imperfect. 14. Never use a preposition to end a sentence with. 15. Use apostrophe's right. 16. When dangling, don't use participles. 17. Never leave a transitive verb just lay there without an object. 18. a sentence should begin with a capital and end with a period 19. Watch out for irregular verbs which have creeped into our language. 20. Profanity sucks. 21. Be more or less specific. 22. Understatement may be better. 23. Exaggeration is a billion times worse than under- statement. 24. Analogies in writing are like feathers on a snake. 25. Go around the barn at high noon to avoid colloquialisms. 26. Even if a mixed metaphor sings like a canary, it should be thrown out with the bathwater. 27. Last but not least, lay off cliches.

They simply have a different orientation, and I do not see that as being immoral. Those who practice incest and bestiality simply have a different orientation too, you cant logically justify they are any less moral in their sexuality than those who practice homosexuality.

R7, Maybe you can ask him to send me yours, I know he has mine.

We're a little concerned about how this might be perceived. What do you think? I love it! I would do a capture the flag theme. Make everyone wear a white T-shirt thats ok not to return home stained. Fill each water gun with water that has a food dye and play a regular game of capture the flag. Change food dye colors for each new game and limit the water capacity and or number or guns allowed at one time. Make a refill zone and make it a safe are with separate entrances/exits for each team. Or if thats not PC enough, make a target course.

For any conspiracy theorists who may think this, I didnt initiate this thread to promote home schooling but because several members (Weekender, Pioneer, Rooster and Brad) had mentioned doing so in their posts previous. This is just a coincidence. To all Home Schoolers and those interested, my uncle is Mike Smith, he is president of the Home School Legal Defense Association. I am not currently a home schooler though I may be one next year depending on certain factors. In any case, should you have any (home-school related) legal problems or you are just interested in getting started, I invite you to visit his web-site. http://www.hslda.org/default.asp Here is some info on Learning Disabilities and home schooling. http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/hslda/199709040.asp

Vancouver, [WA], Recycle those cartridges Vancouver Boy Scout Troop No. 48 wants your old inkjet printer cartridges. In a combined effort to help the environment (more than 1 million of the inkjet cartridges are simply tossed into landfills each year) and a way to raise funds for the troop, the Boy Scouts are collecting the cartridges to be recycled. You can drop off the cartridges at the Battle Ground Fred Meyer, 401 N.W. 12th Ave. There's a collection center in the electronics department, or you can call troop committee member Kathi Hollister at 360-896-3768 for a collection center near you.

ML, Im not sure he left much room for interpretation, no gray area here. These are the two things he said he didnt have. Main Entry: religion Pronunciation: ri-'li-j&nFunction: nounEtymology: Middle English religioun, from Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back -- Date: 13th century1 a : the state of a religious b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith- religionless adjective Main Entry: faith Pronunciation: 'fAthFunction: nounInflected Form(s): plural faiths /'fAths, sometimes 'fA[th]z/Etymology: Middle English feith, from Old French feid, foi, from Latin fides; akin to Latin fidere to trust Date: 13th century1 a : allegiance to duty or a person : LOYALTY b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions2 a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust3 : something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefssynonym see BELIEF- in faith : without doubt or question : VERILY

Boy Scout fund-raiser Boy Scout Troop 718 will hold a fund-raiser from 5 p.m. to 9 p.m. Feb. 27 at Taneytown's Pizza Hut. Scouts will earn 20 percent of all net sales during the four-hour period.

OGE, Has anyone noticed the hypocrisy in Monsieur Le Voyageurs statements? He first said: I see this program open and free to all of all faiths, and in my case and maybe quite a few others, no religious faith at all. and then concluded with My last blessing for one and all is this, may the Great Spirit... Ive stayed out of this one from the get-go, he had plenty of rope to hang himself without my comments. It was easy to see from his first self-incriminating anti-religion statements that he lacked the capacity to be a Scouter in good standing and therefor there was no need to engage him further. Without faith of any kind he is not a Scouter period and if he has any honor he would resign his affiliation with the BSA. Further, it is easy to see Monsieur Le Voyageur has some deep-seeded hostilities, possibly due to complications having been in service to our country, and I hope he seeks the appropriate help to find a resolution. Until then, I would have to say I personally would be afraid for our children to be in his charge. Thats all my humble opinion.Lastly OGE, I wonder how he would feel if I went on a native American bulletin board and made derogatory statements about his faith and culture. At the least it would be truly un-scout-like and at most a subversive disrupter of poor deportment.

Executive Mansion, Washington, Nov. 21, 1864. Dear Madam,-- I have been shown in the files of the War Department a statement of the Adjutant General of Massachusetts that you are the mother of five sons who have died gloriously on the field of battle. I feel how weak and fruitless must be any word of mine which should attempt to beguile you from the grief of a loss so overwhelming. But I cannot refrain from tendering you the consolation that may be found in the thanks of the Republic they died to save. I pray that our Heavenly Father may assuage the anguish of your bereavement, and leave you only the cherished memory of the loved and lost, and the solemn pride that must be yours to have laid so costly a sacrifice upon the altar of freedom. Yours, very sincerely and respectfully, A. Lincoln THE GETTYSBURG ADDRESS ABRAHAM LINCOLN Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this. But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us--that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion--that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain, that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth. LETTER TO HORACE GREELEY President Abraham Lincoln Executive Mansion Washington, August 22, 1862 Hon. Horace Greeley: Dear Sir. I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right. As to the policy I "seem to be pursuing" as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt. I would save the union. I would save it in the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forebear, I forebear because I do not believe it would save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views. I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men everywhere could be free. Yours, A. Lincoln.

these men didn't lead for themselves, but for the service of their fellow manBig bump to that C29! Thanks

I shouldnt have assumed that all Scouters have school age children. Sorry about that, I didnt mean to discriminate. Feel free to post present if you care to be counted. Further, if you have groan children, youre welcome to vote for their appropriate former schooling.

Do you home school, public school or private school?

Make it a phone loop. Have the last person in the chain call the ASPL or other designate and confirm the loop has been completed. If the ASPL doesnt get a confirmation from each patrol by a set time he has to recall that PL again and find out the problem. The ASPL reports back to you when the chain is complete. Put the onus on the senior boys; make the chain of command go down and then back up. You should only have to make one call and receive one call. Inspect what you expect I always say. Good Luck!

Welcome Rooster Jr. I can already tell Im going to like you.

OGE, Im so sorry you took that as insulting. I didnt intend to do so, I thought we were bonding, good golly! I thought we were having a fun conversation about a subject we both respect and love. Ill not respond to your posts anymore, again I apologize.

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Guess again. Have you seen the growth in home schooling in this country? Might it have something to do with the abandonment of education and the promotion of social engineering including a big push on incorporating homosexual "awareness" into all areas of the cirriculum. Bump to that!BTW does the DC have anything to do with the District?

Bump to StanIt is about doing a Good Turn Daily. Thanks for the wake-up call>

You're starting to endear yourself to us Wisconsinites. Nope, its you Wisconsinites who have endeared yourselves to me. Some of my fondest memories of yearly adulthood lie between Door County and Beaver Dam. Its Gods Country ya know hey!

DD, does your lack of courtesy and self righteousness know no end? MS, The courtesy was for TJ NOT to answer a question with a question. He has in several instances purposely misrepresented CJ, R7 and me without apology or retraction. He makes thing up out of whole cloth to promote an agenda of disruption and vice. Sorry if your perception of such things has become so dulled and or that youre condoning that with you silence of his actions.