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Camp Staffers Fired for Trying to Rescue Bald Eagle
David CO replied to scoutldr's topic in Summer Camp
I believe in respecting nature. Included in my respect for nature is an understanding and appreciation of the predator/prey relationship that exists in nature. Nature can seem cruel, and predators appear to be oblivious to the suffering they cause to their prey. I have very much enjoyed studying and observing nature, but I don't mind admitting that some things in nature can still make me wince. That's human nature, I suppose, and not an entirely bad thing. I don't believe in interfering with nature. If my sensibilities are offended, I avert my eyes or walk away. It is entirely different when animals are injured when venturing into the human environment. In that case, it is certainly appropriate for us to tend to them and return them to their natural surroundings. I applaud the work of the good people who do so. That said, I would not at all appreciate it if one of these good people were to characterize me as being unscoutlike for my hands-off attitude toward wildlife in nature. I would definitely not tolerate it from a subordinate. -
Camp Staffers Fired for Trying to Rescue Bald Eagle
David CO replied to scoutldr's topic in Summer Camp
Sometimes bald eagles are the predators. Sometimes they're the prey. This is how nature works. -
Changes to Introduction to Outdoor Leadership Skills
David CO replied to Rock Doc's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Sometimes boys should move on. By age 15, my nephew was at a outdoor skill level that went way beyond anything we could offer him. We had nothing left to teach him. Scouting was no longer fun for him. He joined a group of guys who went into wilderness areas so remote they could only get there by float plane. I know that BSA would like to keep each and every boy until they hit 18, but that's not the goal of my Chartered Organization. We offer a very nice camping program for boys, but we don't offer Green Beret training. -
Changes to Introduction to Outdoor Leadership Skills
David CO replied to Rock Doc's topic in Open Discussion - Program
This, too, is one of my concerns. I have had unit leaders who became so involved in OA, district, and council functions that I needed to ask them to step down from their unit positions. -
Changes to Introduction to Outdoor Leadership Skills
David CO replied to Rock Doc's topic in Open Discussion - Program
If BSA were the only avenue available for adults to learn outdoor skill, to pass on to boys, I might agree with you. But that isn't the case. There are many other places for adults to learn these skills. There is a real propensity for some adult leaders to try to turn scouting into an adult program. Adults can get carried away sometimes, in both scouting and sports. Scouting is a game for boys. Yes, it is a game with a purpose, but it is still just a game. A big part of my job is to keep it that way. -
Changes to Introduction to Outdoor Leadership Skills
David CO replied to Rock Doc's topic in Open Discussion - Program
I would like to see scouting remain a program for boys. There are plenty of other places where adults can learn outdoor skills. I learned most of mine in college. I know many junior colleges offer adult classes in Outdoor Education for teachers and recreation majors. -
Changes to Introduction to Outdoor Leadership Skills
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I disagree with CalicoPenn about having BSA offer more advanced skills courses. We already have too many useless requirements to waste our time. -
Rather than banning commercial sponsors, it would be much more practical to simply inform the parents and unit leaders in advance. Let them make an informed decision for themselves. I would definitely pass on a Hooters sponsored event. That's my choice. You choose for yourselves.
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My school doesn't allow any commercial logos. There is a special exception for scout uniforms on meeting days. This exception only applies to the uniform. No BSA logo tee shirts are allowed.
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I though his "song and dance" remark indicated that the entire sentence was intended to be a slam, including the "snowflake" name calling. I disagree with you, but I really like your positive attitude.
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On the national level, I agree that morally straight has gone straight out the window. On a more local level, many of us have been able to retain our moral values. My unit is morally straight. We intend to keep it that way. On the council/district level, it has to be determined on a case by case basis. Some events are good. Some are very bad.
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Stosh, you are perfectly aware of the fact that calling someone a "snowflake" is derogatory. It implies that the person is weak and fragile. No boy wants to be called a "snowflake." We teach our kids in Religion and Health classes to expect this sort of thing from time to time. They're ready for it. They are ready for it, but they still don't like it. Neither do I.
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Snowflake? It is a common tactic of people who do not share my CO's religion and moral values to paint my scouts as being weaker or less masculine. I don't believe for one minute that good moral values make a scout into a wimp.
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I agree. Parents and unit leaders should have been told in advance that this event was sponsored by and promoting Hooters restaurants.
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I would be outraged, too. I don't like bait and switch. It is a lot like turning on a wholesome TV show for the kids, and then discovering that it has a very unwholesome commercial. When I put on the "Andy Griffith Show", I don't want to see explicit commercials for a little blue pill. BSA should have more sense than advertising Hooters at a Cub Scout camp.
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You're absolutely right about VFW and American Legion having bars. So do the Knights of Columbus. The Catholic Church has recently asked all KC's to move their unit charters over to the parish youth ministries.
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I frankly wouldn't care what they thought. I also wouldn't care how much volunteer work they do. If anyone promotes alcohol or tobacco use to my kids, they're out.
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I don't think anyone at my church would consider smoking and drinking to be immoral. Vices, perhaps. More likely bad habits. Any way one chooses to look at it, we would not allow anyone to promote alcohol or tobacco use to our kids. Not at school. Not at scouting.
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Yes, I would call objectifying women immoral.
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Yes, that is a bad thing. They don't just happen to wear a different uniform. They choose to wear a different uniform.
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Yep, not only political affiliations, they take swipes at religious affiliation as well.
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Of course the two issues have something to do with each other. Both issues force units chartered by conservative CO's to question whether or not they should participate in council/district run activities. It cannot be automatically assumed anymore that a BSA activity is appropriate for our kids. We now need to carefully scrutinize each activity on a case by case basis.
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In my line of work, we get a lot of grievances. We have a formal grievance policy to handle them. So long as people follow the grievance procedures, they need not fear any form of retaliation. This is one of the advantages of having a solid institution as a CO. If scouter957 has a CO with a formal grievance policy, this might be the way to go.
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I noticed that the OP states that the boy is in the Band. Are these cabinets for the Band room? Sounds like a great project to me. Consider this. How will the school/church feel about your scout program if you nix this project?