Cubscoutldr2011

Mr dweller If the DE knows that packs are acting outside the rules and allows it to happen, you're in luck. When that kid gets hurt during a pack-sponsored archery or bb gun shooting activity, hurt cub parent can add the DE (both in their official capacity and personally) and the rest of the district in addition to the pack leadership as defendants in the lawsuit. You can all share in paying out that lawsuit, because BSA insurance certainly won't.

Not at our campsite. Cub scout rules are clear on knives; can't have them without the chip. Consider the principle that a knife is a tool, not a toy. What tool purpose is served when throwing knives? I see no reason to throw a knife except for the purpose of injuring someone, and I will never tolerate that at a scouting event. I teach my cubs that Cub Scouts follow rules. Period. I don't accept it when my son asks me for something, I say no, then he asks mom, and mom says yes. I expect all the akelas in my den to follow the same rule. If a cubs akela wants to do something else, they can go do it elsewhere. I am responsible for my cubs safety at a campsite, dad is only responsible for his son and usually doesn't think or care about my additional responsibilities. I won't make exceptions to rules because *one* dad doesn't like the rules. So to the OP's question: I'd get another akela, go stop them and tell them why. If they don't want to stop, I'd enlist the help of the event staff to take care of the issue and make my position known. What the staff does, it's their call, and out of my hands.

Not at our campsite. Cub scout rules are clear on knives; can't have them without the chip. Consider the principle that a knife is a tool, not a toy. What tool purpose is served when throwing knives? I see no reason to throw a knife except for the purpose of injuring someone, and I will never tolerate that at a scouting event. I teach my cubs that Cub Scouts follow rules. Period. I don't accept it when my son asks me for something, I say no, then he asks mom, and mom says yes. I expect all the akelas in my den to follow the same rule. If a cubs akela wants to do something else, they can go do it elsewhere. I am responsible for my cubs safety at a campsite, dad is only responsible for his son and usually doesn't think or care about my additional responsibilities. I won't make exceptions to rules because *one* dad doesn't like the rules. So to the OP's question: I'd get another akela, go stop them and tell them why. If they don't want to stop, I'd enlist the help of the event staff to take care of the issue and make my position known. What the staff does, it's their call, and out of my hands.

I think the rule is clear. If its not a scouting organized event as directed by the local council, can't do it, parent permission or free family time or otherwise. I don't think it matters if the non scouting sponsor have their own professionals with a program that is "like or just as good" as a council approved activity. The real issue is insurance. Scouting liability insurance requires specific actions on the part of the council to insure protection under the policy terms. Councils can't guarantee the program meets the requirements to insure coverage unless they run the program themselves. The policy also requires councils to run the event with RSOs with approved training. This ain't a BSA rule, it's really an insurer's rule. So go ahead and look for a loophole, or try to interpret the rule so you can shoot whatever without council approval, or let parents take the job for something that is your responsibility. You can be sure if someone is hurt the BSA's liability insurance lawyers will work hard to find a way to deny coverage, and not following the rules makes the lawyer's job a whole lot easier.