Advisor FB

The really sad part about this entire episode, is the effect it will have on the youth. If this were a Pack or Troop, I could see the lack of youth input as even a "boy run" troop the adults do a lot of the actual administration duties. But a Crew is supposed to be totally run by the youth, from check book to charter, my kids do that actual work, I just advisor when asked or see something that violates G2SS. Right now, all of my youth are actually adults, so I would have never placed my views above theirs. Unfortunately, she has decided to use the youth to grind her own axe. Perhaps the committee approved and the COR, which wasn't mentioned in the article, may have gone along knowingly. More than likely, the COR either didn't know or didn't care. I find the comment by Scott Cozza quite interesting regarding the ability to maintain non-discrimination policies. I didn't know that people kicked out of scouts were making policy decisions for the rest of us scouters.

While the approval of the openly gay bishop would seem to be at odds with the BSA policy, the bishop would not be a Scout leader, so therefor would not be affected by BSA membership guidelines. Even if he signed on as IH, the last three units I started never had an IH fill out an application. My current crew's COR elects new leadership every year, last two years, two different IH signatures. I don't know if that is correct, but my DE has never had any complaints. The main issue, would be if the church were to demand that the scouts changed their policy or that they requested that the scouts earning their awards would subscribe to the churches belief, then would it interfere with the BSA values.

Merlyn, You have every right to complain about what your tax dollars are spent on, but that does not mean that we how feel otherwise should be silenced or restricted from stating how we feel. Personally, I find it outrageous that my tax dollars help pay for the killing of unborn children. I also find it outrageous that my tax dollars are paying to enforce atheistic views in school like the theory of evolution while not discussing other theories. Just because I stand up for my beliefs, does not make me discriminatory. But attacking me for my beliefs is discrimination. Those that are screaming the most against discrimination are the ones that "discriminate" the most. The so-called "tolerance" that the homosexuals and atheists call for only works if you tolerate their views. For them to tolerate other viewpoints seems impossible. They no longer debate the issues but cry discrimination when someone opposes their views. Anytime anyone stands up to speak out against their views, they get out to protest and keep others from hearing different viewpoints. Perhaps the old saying in legal circles has come true. "The worse your case the louder you plead"

Acco40, In my opinion, the comment, "I don't think "society" has changed to accept immoral behavior, I believe that "society" has changed the definition of what is considered immoral." has it backwards. I feel that society has changed to "accept" behavior, be it immoral or moral as a way of being "tolerant". Most people still view the behavior as moral or immoral, but in the name of tolerance, they do not pass judgement on the person. Society tends to change from time to time on what would be called normal behavior, but I don't think that means that behavior that was once was immoral, is now considered moral. Studies have shown that most college students still feel cheating is immoral, yet those same students reported cheating at all time highs. Does that mean that morality is at an all time low? No, just that, the individual's tolerance of behavior is more important now than an individual's morality.

I had to deal with this as CM of a pack which lacked a proper committe to handle the checking account. It made getting reimbursed for items quite hard, 1 to 2 month delay on average. At first I would sned in receipts in groups, to be reimbursed, but as the delays continued, I proceeded to plan B. I put in a rush request for reimbursement for every item purchased as soon as purchased. I ended up getting a check a week for about a month, until the Church Treasurer contacted me to find a new treaserer for that account, as he did not have the time to deal with all the transactions. Got a yes from the third parent asked, (now the new CM of that pack), set up the new account and received a lump sum payment from the church treasurer. Only problem then was that the lump sum was for all scouts, Pack and Troop. Took alot of backtracking records to determine the correct distribution of the funds. All told the Church collected a nice 35% "tithe" for the troubles of handling our accounts for us. While it is within the CO's ability to request this arrangement, I would still try to get everything in writing as to what the money can be used for and only those people that can use the money.