Hey guys thanks for replying. I have no problem with personal choices. In your example I have no problem with long hair, or heavy metal. I could care less if the some of the youths ideals in their everyday lives do not match mine perfectly. What I meant by military crisp would be more of a troop that moves as one unit. One that would have good turn out (Hard to do nowadays), when they march in parades or color gaurd situations would move in unison. I have seen too much of boys that treat the uniform with disrespect (Example slouching with shirt untucked). I want the boys to want to be scouts. I want them to want to show pride in their troop, their organization, and themselves. I want the boys to be challenged everyday. Even though I knew this was a great organization when I was fully active, I never even came close to grasping the endless possibilities in character building, career networking, research into different fields, high andventure and just plain fun! Someday when I reassert myself in a troop I don't want them to take this chance for granted.