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  1. Here is the official policy from the G2SS The following statement was approved by the National Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America: It is the policy of the Boy Scouts of America that the use of alcoholic beverages and controlled substances is not permitted at encampments or activities on property owned and/or operated by the Boy Scouts of America, or at any activity involving participation of youth members.
  2. Skeptic, this black and white mentality is what the BSA has forced on us. Below is the direct quote from the Guide to Advancement that has caused this. Though stated earlier in this publication, it bears repeating here: No council, committee, district, unit, or individual has the authority to add to or subtract from advancement requirements. There are no camp-related exemptions except those described in “Advancement for Members With Special Needs,†10.0.0.0. Camp counselors and those assisting them, regardless the circumstances, are not permitted to modify requirements. If requirements as written cannot be competed at camp, they must be done elsewhere, before or after the camp experience.
  3. Camping MB requirement 9a states "Camp a total of at least 20 days and 20 nights.* Sleep each night under the sky or in a tent you have pitched. The 20 days and 20 nights must be at a designated Scouting activity or event. You may use a week of long-term camp toward this requirement. If the camp provides a tent that has already been pitched, you need not pitch your own tent." Our summer camp has recently removed all of the tent and platforms, and replaced them with three sided adirondacks. These adirondacks are not tents, and strictly speaking sleeping in one is not under the sky. How would you apply this camping experience to this requirement. Here is a picture of our adirondacks, http://www.bsa-gsmc.org/OrgHeaders/2478/adirondack%202.jpg
  4. While I know this is a couple years old I also came across a few odd registration codes in our council. Only one person is registered in each of these codes in our whole council. [TABLE=class: wysiwyg_table_] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD=align: right]112[/TD] [TD]Unit Advancement Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD=align: right]127[/TD] [TD]Unit Fund-Raising Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD=align: right]128[/TD] [TD]Unit Training Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Then after a bit of google searching I came up with this list. Has anyone seen these before, or are these carryovers from years gone by? I [TABLE=class: wysiwyg_table_] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]43[/TD] [TD]Religious Emblems Counselor[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]112[/TD] [TD]Unit Advancement Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]115[/TD] [TD]Unit Chaplain[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]119[/TD] [TD]Unit Popcorn Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]122[/TD] [TD]Unit Secretary[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]123[/TD] [TD]Unit Treasurer[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]124[/TD] [TD]Unit Friends-of-Scouting Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]126[/TD] [TD]Unit Membership / Webelos Transition Chmn.[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]127[/TD] [TD]Unit Fund-Raising Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: wysiwyg_table_cke_show_border] [TD]128[/TD] [TD]Unit Training Chairman[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE]
  5. A few years back I sent in an email to national regarding the advancement requirement Unit Leader Award of Merit for Advisors, and it was promptly sent to Bill Evans. The email I got back from him was the same double-speak that qwazse spoke of. He went on how advancement was good for venturing, and the how high performing units have a good record of advancement.
  6. More info can be found here, http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2014/02/12/new-venturing-award-names-announced/
  7. Here is a link to a video announcing the new Venturing awards,
  8. Just to give you some legalese from the Guide to Advancement,http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33088.pdf 8.0.1.5 After the Review - ... If a board does not approve, the candidate must be so informed and told what he can do to improve. Most Scouts accept responsibility for their behavior or for not completing requirements properly. If it is thought that a Scout, before his 18th birthday, can benefit from an opportunity to properly complete the requirements, the board may adjourn and reconvene at a later date. If the candidate agrees to this, then if possible, the same members should reassemble. If he does not agree, then the board must make its decision at that point. In any case, a follow-up letter must be promptly sent to a Scout who is turned down. It must include actions advised that may lead to advancement, and also an explanation of appeal procedures... The council must keep a copy of the letter. FYI there is no appeal process for First Class and lower ranks.
  9. He is wrong, from the New Unit Application. "The Chartered Organization selects one of its members to register as chartered organization representative who may also serve as chair or as unit committee member if needed. All units must have a unit leader and a minimum of five paid youth. There must be at least three committee members, with one named chair..." Three committee members, one as the chair who can also be the COR, and a scoutmaster would be the minimum.
  10. Actually under the 2013 Guide to Advancement there is come leeway that troops now have on the composition of the BOR, and it can involve non registered adults. As noted below, this leeway should be the exception, not the rule. 8.0.2.0 Particulars for Tenderfoot Through Life Ranks (or Palms) - ....The board is made up of three to six unit committee membersâ€â€no more and no less. In units with fewer than three registered committee members available to serve, it is permissible to use knowledgeable parents (not those of the candidate) or other adults (registered or not) who are at least 21 years of age and who understand Boy Scouting’s aims. Using unregistered adults for boards of review must be the exception, not the rule. Registered committee members familiar with the unit program, who have had a background check, and who are Youth Protection trained are preferred. Scheduling boards of review when and where committee members can attend usually alleviates the problem of not having enough committee members for a board. Do your troop a favor and pick up a copy of the Guide to Advancement. If you have parents who are functioning as committee members, but are not registered, they should register as soon as possible.
  11. We went a few years ago, and had a great time. We did not have any children at the time, but from what we saw the kids were having a blast. Your sons program will be basically a week long Boy Scout program, what summer camp used to be before they became merit badge factories. Most of the participants were male, but there were several women there, and a few men in the spouse program. I took the Unit Commissioner class and was expecting some top secret, Philmont only training, what I got was the training that I had already received. I got more out of the discussions we had about how different people and areas of the county handle problems, and it was well worth the trip. If your course is anything like mine was be prepared to bring home tons of handout, books, and other material they give out during the course, plus anything that you buy at Tooth of Time Traders. We happened to be there when TTT was having their annual sale, happens one week a year.
  12. For a young man who is planning on continuing his Boy Scout rank advancement through Venturing, how do you think requirement 6 should be handled? While a Star Scout, use the EDGE method to teach a younger Scout the skills from ONE of the following six choices, so that he is prepared to pass those requirements to his unit leader’s satisfaction. a. Second Classâ€â€7a and 7c (first aid) b. Second Classâ€â€1a (outdoor skills) c. Second Classâ€â€3c, 3d, 3e, and 3f (cooking/camping) d. First Classâ€â€8a, 8b, 8c, and 8d (first aid) e. First Classâ€â€1, 7a, and 7b (outdoor skills) f. First Classâ€â€4a, 4b, and 4d (cooking/camping) g. Three requirements from one of the required Eagle merit badges, as approved by your unit leader. My take was to simply teach one of these scout skills to a member of the crew, just wanted to see what other thought.
  13. No matter how we think of the Eagle rank and the elevated esteem that we associate with it, the Eagle rank is nothing more than a set of requirements. Once the requirements have been, nothing more nothing less, the young man has earned the rank.
  14. It is also in the Guide to Advancement 2013 revision that one of the objectives for unit advancement coordinators is to: Assist the unit leader in establishing practices that will provide opportunities for each new Boy Scout to achieve First Class rank within 12 to 18 months of joining, and Star rank soon thereafter. In the previous revision stated: Establish practices that will bring each new Boy Scout to First Class rank within a year of joining, and then to Star rank the following year.
  15. Well, actually there won't be any changes, just a few, vague guidelines. NJCubScouter stated in another thread ​This document states: "This change in membership standards is not a youth protection issue. To consider it a youth protection issue would lead one to believe that sexual abuse and victimization is considered inherent to same-sex attraction. This is not the case. Based on this should all of the references to coed actives(latrines, showering, tenting, etc.) in the G2SS should be removed because that could lead one to believe that sexual abuse and victimization is considered inherent to opposite-sex attraction. While the document gives leeway to leaders on how they address these issues, it does not give firm rules. This is just nonsense, but it is exactly what I thought we were going to get from national.
  16. The policy adopted by the national council voting body states : Youth membership in the Boy Scouts of America is open to all youth who meet the specific membership requirements to join the Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Varsity Scout, Sea Scout, and Venturing programs. Membership in any program of the Boy Scouts of America requires the youth member to (a) subscribe to and abide by the values expressed in the Scout Oath and Scout Law, (b) subscribe to and abide by the precepts of the Declaration of Religious Principle (duty to God), and © demonstrate behavior that exemplifies the highest level of good conduct and respect for others and is consistent at all times with the values expressed in the Scout Oath and Scout Law. No youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone. I do not see how they could change the "No youth may be denied membership in the Boy Scouts of America on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone" part of the approved resolution without another national council vote. I also have not seen this anywhere but here in your post.
  17. dcsimmons, I really doubt any youth protection policies will change. If you take a look at the Learning for Life YPT, where there are no membership standards, it is the same as Venturing except that some of the terminology has changed. And if you have one boy that you say cannot shower or tent with other boys, that could be considered discrimination and no one wants that label.
  18. Still no Administrative Delegates and a couple of months late, but hey this is still great. Current Functionality New Release – August 2013 New tools for Key 3 organization administrators: Training Manager - view dashboard of position trained leader status and Youth Protection Training status by organization level, add training, and print member’s training certificate(s). Organization Manager(previously known as Organization Profile) - create and manage unit’s organizational structure (dens, patrols, groups, crews, squads, committees, etc.). District/area/council organizational structure will be in a future release. Member Manager - assign functional roles to members in each unit’s organizational structure, and manage roster. My Dashboard - adult member can update additional profile information in My Profile, and view his/her training records (not just YPT). Existing Functionality Member can update personal contact information (e.g., address, phone, email). Organization administrators can update member contact information, post announcements and enter calendar events for their organization. Unit and district members can print membership card(s) for positions within their organizations. Except for: Executive Officer Administrative, and Non-registered ‘functional’ roles [*]Unit’s chartered organization and their representative are identified, and Key 3 can enter unit social media contacts (Facebook and Twitter). [*]Key 3 can select and view roster by adult, youth or unit, and filter by position. Coming Soon! Key 3 will be able to grant 3 additional registered leaders (referred to as Administrative Delegate), the authority to update information. Council administrator(s) will have ability to update news/announcements related to their council to be viewed by all members in their council organization structure. Member will be able to associate multiple member IDs with an account. Email alerts will be sent when calendar updates and announcements are made, along with providing calendar reminders, training expirations, and more. Key 3 will be able to send targeted communications (i.e. by position, organization, custom list, etc.) Key 3 will be able to record and report advancements and awards, and view advancement dashboard. Parent and youth will have access to view their personal profile information and youth advancements.
  19. From the 2013 revision of the Guide to Advancement 9.0.2.8 “Use the Eagle Scout ServiceProject Workbook†Using the workbook, No. 512-927, helps candidates avoid pitfalls. If properly used, it very nearly assures success. It shows approvals have been secured, lists important limitations, suggests questions for those approving the project, and includes outlines for the proposal and the more detailed final plan that should come next. The workbook should not, however, become a basis for rejecting candidates based on “technicalities†that have nothing to do with requirement intent. The use of the workbook is required, but occasionally Scouts will submit it without everything called for. In most cases they should be required to fully complete the proposal and project report, and be strongly encouraged to complete the final plan. However, at times it may not be feasible or just not necessary for establishing that the requirement was met. If it is clear the project was completed and approved of, and meets Eagle Scout requirement 5 as it is written, then it should be considered. If it will be a hardship, or a poor use of time to fill in missing information or obtain a signature of a party who is unavailable or by some other means known to have approved it, then it is appropriate to accept it. There is something to be said for “object lessons,†but keep in mind that write-ups and signatures, though important, are simply supportive. It is a project that we require. Boards of review should use common sense: Did the project meet the requirements or not? Was there planning and development? Was there leadership of others?
  20. Crud, I voted THEN read the entire OP. Doubt that you would get many venturers here to vote anyways.
  21. That is what I mean, one of their allotted provisional Venturing Crews.
  22. While reading another thread this morning a thought popped into my head. At the 2017 Jamboree I thing that they should let the few councils that have several Sea Scout Ships, say 10 or more, send one of their allotted Venturing crews to Jambo as a Sea Scout Ship. The same should be true for the heavy LDS areas that have a lot of Varsity Teams. There is no reason to hide these programs in the background.
  23. As someone who most would consider far right, I do not see the need for the unit position. While it does not fit the patrol method, the religious emblems program in general reinforces the 12 point of the scout law. The UREC's (yeah another scouting abbreviation) could easily be assigned to some other assistant unit leader or committee member. The only place i could see this being useful is in very large units. As a district advancement chair, I see the position a benefit to district and council advancement committees. (Per the GTA district and council advancement committees are to "Support and promote the religious emblems program")
  24. The patch has been released, http://www.scoutstuff.org/emb-unit-relig-emb-coord.html Why go back to the green background? Green background was the color of boy scout position patches Oscar de la Renta uniform were released, and for adult POR patches beginning in 1938. Again, why not just wear the appropriate committee POR patch just like advancement, membership, transportation, etc coordinators wear?
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