ChaiAdventure

As long as Sea Scouts is part of Venturing, there will be advancement in Venturing.... just poking the bear...

Running a crew is completely different than a troop. When you take the training, pay particular attention to the aims and methods. Uniforming and advancement are not part of a crew's methods, but they are fall-backs for long-time scouters. I think of it this way... Cub Scouts: based on particpating in activities Boy Scouts: based on leading the patrols during activities Crews: based on envisioning, resourcing, planning and executing activities A bit simplistic...but...

Maybe the folks at National will have a better time understanding the train of thought of this letter. I cannot follow it.

not sure sure why you would say that he is splitting hairs.... awards are most certainly not part of advancement and advancement is not a method in Venturing... and why do you say that there is no relevance to distinguishing between venture scouts and venturers...they are completely different, are from different programs and have different methods associated with them...

This is a question for the district training chair, not the advancement chair. As a DTC, I would count WB as equivalent to UoS for the purposes of this training award for one of the years required of the two for tenure.

the Venturing pants look decent, but the commercial alternatives still win out....I would have been happier with a pair of microfiber scout pants in gray...

we got our slot...

talk about digging up old threads...this one started in 2003....

Kind of a weird first and only post (one day after signing up for an account) by a youth and zero follow-up by the OP. Makes me think that this is an adult trolling.... Just sayin'...

One thing that I would have wanted to see was a connection between training and advancement. We have ILST and NYLT training out there, but it is in no way tied to the program. This is not a dig on the training. I believe leadership training has its place. But like Venturing requires ILSC to earn Silver, I believe that part of the higher ranks (Life, Eagle) should be not only to serve in a leadership position, but to attend the training that supports it. In addition, I would like to see some kind of recognition (in the form of official bling) for scouts who attend NYLT or NAYLE. I know they can wear a patch on their right pocket, but they can wear anything on their right pocket. This leadership training should allow them to wear something distinctive...... But I digress....

and meanwhile we still wait for the Venturing requirements that will take effect before these Cub/Boy Scout changes....

if OA is a Boy Scout program, then why are adults allowed in??? adults are not Boy Scouts...they are Scouters...

the report issued by national on the future of Venturing specifically states that Varsity would be included in the Venturing program which also includes Sea Scouts....I assume that this would mean the Varsity Teams would no longer be allowed to vote for OA candidates since they would be out of Boy Scouting...

Not sure what the issue is.... The pledge is just that, a pledge. It is not worshipping the flag as a deity.

The report stated that there was only 0.7% of Venturers who earned any Venturing award. In my mind, since recognition was a method in Venturing, that is a 99.3% failure rate. Any changes are welcome... An interesting side-effect is that my Crew has committed to earn the bronze-gold-silver award prior to their abolishment on Dec 31 2014. In an off-handed way, getting rid of the old system put some life back into it (in my small neck of the woods).