This is why I wanted to find a forum, your candidness and information is wonderful. I didn't see it but you are right we are not doing enough games. We are letting the scouts lead but to be honest we went through a couple scoutmasters that took over everything. We are trying to get back to scout lead but I think we lost a lot in that time. The scouts never plan games or anything. Maybe we need to come up with some ideas and provide it to them. Are there any games out there that teach how to follow through on leadership positions or who the report to (PL, ASPL, SPL) etc to kind of begin with the basics? I will try searching other games as well. Any other ideas would be welcome, judgmental or not. We realize we need to make changes, we just have struggled with adult leadership and support from our council because we are so far away, and very few of our leaders were previously scouts. Thank you!