OaklandAndy

BSA already has a hard time retaining members/volunteers, let alone employees. Not surprised that it would be easier to displace the problem then get rid of it. I'm sure if it was a liability issue, yeah absolutely they'd be gone. But if they are just running a council into the ground, they'll move them elsewhere like you said.

You can set up a group Discord. I used that a lot with my summer camp staff when I was a camp director. Easy to manage and supervise. Most youth know and use that app.

I think a lot of us had this opportunity after covid.

I found that giving them a purpose helps. From what I've seen from other units, a leader gets trained and then what they learned remains with the card they hold and doesn't go any further. Whenever I have a leader, or trying to encourage a leader, to go to training, I have them use what they learned right away. Whether it's leading a segment with the scouts or even the adult parents. We, too, pay for our leaders but that's never going to be enough if I don't tell them how that training will benefit them, the unit, and how they are going to be using it soon after the training is completed. Another thing we do is we sign up and pay for the leaders at the meeting rather than rely on them to do it themselves. This usually eliminates excuses like "I forgot".

Yes and working on the MOP program and the same time since they share the same international objectives. I appreciate you're assistance!

Our Pack is actually starting this at the beginning of 2024. I didn't even know about it until I was doing some research on different awards for our scouts. I doubt the councils even know much about it either. I'm hoping we can bring more awareness to it and other units will participate.

Council insurance went up anywhere between 3%-5% across the country for the upcoming year. Our council has to pay national something like $65,000 just for recharter, hence our fee going up. Council's are trying to survive too, but it's hard when National raises rates for everyone....scouts, volunteers, mbc, councils, etc.

Yep, no one. Some superintendents have decided for all schools in a county that no outside organization is allowed. Doesn't matter if it's the fire department, scouts, or any other organization. It's crazy that they would throw away so many resources, but then you have groups like that Satanic After School club trying to get in your school as well. But that's another story.

Come recharter, there will be on 2 packs and 1 troop left in our rural county. 1 pack has 8, the other 51.

Very true. The loophole is if we don't let anyone do anything, then we can say no to everyone, including scouting.

This goes for volunteers as well. Sometimes they can be just as bad.

On top of that, higher positions aren't available for DE's like there used to be. After the lawsuit, everyone had to cut positions and "do more with less". Instead of spending 3-4 years as a DE, there are waiting 5-7 years just for a spot to open up to get promoted.

I had this issue with the parents as well, not so much with our DL's. I had the DL's take all the scouts outside for activities while the parents stayed inside. I sat on the stage and told them we needed to have a heart to heart. After letting them know if we don't get more consistent support/involvement, this would be my last year. Apparently that was enough because at the end of the meetings I had 1 new DL, 3 Asst. DL's, and 3 new Comm. Members. Had they not stepped up, I would've walked and the Pack would probably folded over time. The whole experience was becoming too stressful and volunteering, even at the cub scout level, is not supposed to be like that. Now we're one big happy family...well most of us!

This is as of Oct '23.

That depends on the geographic area I would think. My parents in my pack had no idea there was a lawsuit going on until I told them about it (I'm very transparent about things that go in in the scouting world). They didn't seem to care either since our program is pretty safe. It could be our small-town community feel though.

Good District Executive's rarely stay. I like how our council relies heavily on volunteer input when it comes to decision-making. Very seldom do they make a decision without volunteer approval/input. As a volunteer, I'm on my 3rd DE in the short 5 years I've been doing this. I've also heard that some volunteers are the reason why DE's leave. They try to create a relationship, but instead get blamed when things go South and the council backs the volunteer instead of the DE. Playing devil's advocate, volunteering takes a lot of planning and some just show up and expect it to be done or wait until the last minute and the event is a disaster. Planning it out and watching it in action is all part of the fun! Plus, you can't beat the looks on the Scout's face when they achieve something spectacular. Being a DE is not easy, but neither is volunteering.

Our council doesn't want to sponsor anyone because they don't want to have to keep track of their inventory and finances. Moreso, the relationship between the units and the council is a dreadful one and when I ask why, no one seems to have an answer. "That's the way it's always been"

I'm not sure any of the attendees from outside that area even thought about acclimating to the environment. Word is...temperatures differ around the world.

It's amazing how the burden they put on volunteers is somehow justifiable to them. I understand they have a job to do and they are paid employees, but you would think paid employees would be more knowledgeable and show up to the events across the council in their respective districts.

"On January 8, 2002, President George W. Bush signed the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001. Part of No Child Left Behind is the Boy Scouts of America Equal Access Act, Section 9525 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965, as amended by Section 901 of the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 (the Boy Scouts Act), which applies to public elementary and secondary schools, local educational agencies (LEAs), and State educational agencies (SEAs) that receive funds made available through the Department of Education. Under the Boy Scouts Act, which became effective on January 8, 2002, no such public school, LEA or SEA that provides an opportunity for one or more outside youth or community groups to meet on school premises or in school facilities before or after school hours shall deny equal access or a fair opportunity to meet to, or discriminate against, any group officially affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America, or any other youth group listed in Title 36 of the United States Code as a patriotic society. OCR is charged with enforcing the Boy Scouts of America Equal Access Act. Complaints alleging violations of this law may be filed using the OCR online complaint form or by contacting the OCR office with authority to handle complaints where the institution or entity you are complaining about is located." While this isn't a preferred method since it would cause a lot of tension between the professional and the school, this is something they can use.

Also, I would think that all summer camps, like ours, hold daily SPL meetings throughout the week and that could provide more direction for that SPL.

Either way, it's a great incentive for summer camps!

I feel like I'm overthinking this. Considering the importance of the MB, I needed other's opinions.

"First aid, WFA, CPR/AED must be taught by instructors currently trained by a nationally certified provider such as the American Red Cross, American Heart Association, Emergency Care and Safety Institute, or American Safety and Health Institute." - Guide to Safe Scouting "CPR instruction, wherever it is required, must be taught by people currently trained as CPR instructors by a nationally certified provider, such as the American Red Cross, the Emergency Care and Safety Institute, or the American Heart Association. "- Guide to Advancement So I interpret the G2SS as anyone who holds a CPR/AED card can teach the CPR portion in the First Aid MB, and in G2A I read it as they must be a CPR Instructor, not just someone who holds a card (such as a provider). Thoughts?

After reading both the Archery Shooting experience and Instructional Shooting, I don't see anything about a CRSO needing to approve. I'm reading it as a Lvl 1 Archery Instructor approves the range.