johnsch322

The County of Los Angeles has announced a 4 billion dollar settlement with 6,000 claimants for sexual abuse. BSA CSA survivors are getting the proverbial shaft.

You are correct it is fair, though maybe not always wise. @skeptic for years has been espousing a view that CSA victims and more specifically BSA CSA victims do not deserve any more than a mere pittance for what they had to endure while under the watchful eye of the BSA. He has made statements where he has said that Survivors are taking money that belongs to today's youth (as if we were thieves). Claiming victimhood does not make one an authority on CSA. Rape and abuse of a child has to be one of the most horrific experiences that a young person can endure. To have to live with that pain for the rest of one's life is not an easy thing to endure, I know. Would @skeptic like to put a cap on the amount that could be awarded to a victim of someone who had gasoline deliberately poured on their body and then set on fire? And in every one of these venues there should be no cap on awards for CSA.

For someone who has never been a victim Mr. skeptic how do you feel qualified to be able to make such a statement? Are you even qualified at all about what a Child Sexual Abuse victim goes thru in their lifetime? Do you have firsthand knowledge of what it is like to be raped as a child? Post up the article (which makes me believe the state of Maryland is facing some big-time lawsuits and are trying to limit their exposure since they cannot do the cowardly "file bankruptcy"). Sometimes it is just better to keep your IMO's to yourself, so you don't appear to be so petty.

I for one voted no both times.

The BSA made sure that couldn’t happen because they filed the bankruptcy.

Enjoy your vacation. I welcome your viewpoint.

Exactly,,,yet you continue.

Please do not try to paint BSA as a victim.

This is Hooey, When the initial allegations came forward about the nude photos he could have been removed as a member of the BSA period. There is no god given right to be an adult member of BSA. How many young boys could have been saved? And they did have standing as he was part of their organization. Taking nude photos of young boys and having sexual relationships with them is neither homosexuality or bisexuality. How can you possibly say they removed the threat as best they could when after the nude photos came up they allowed him access to children. That is called gross negligence.

This statement I can't get out of my mind. I am a child of the 60's having been born in the early 50's. I had long hair, I smoked pot, I questioned authority, and I witnessed and read about all that was going on in that time period. Not once was Free Love about sex with children or taking photos of young boys to satisfy perverted sexual desire it was about consensual sex with consenting adults and not feeling guilty about it.

"was twice "called to task" for taking nude photographs of Boy Scouts," you need a law to know that was wrong? "two Scouts came forward to say Brock had "relationships with them as well as other members of the troop" and I know for a fact that the types of relationships he was having was hella illegal, even in the 60's.

"Clyde A. Brock, a 53-year-old bachelor, was twice "called to task" for taking nude photographs of Boy Scouts, displaying them around his Oregon City home, then showing them off to boys who visited. Yet troop leaders didn't kick him out. Only after two Scouts came forward to say Brock had "relationships with them as well as other members of the troop ...that cannot be condoned" was he expelled from Scouting in 1968. Scouting executives quietly blacklisted Brock from ever volunteering again, but let him skirt the accusations by writing a letter of resignation citing only his high blood pressure for quitting. Let's see how the system worked: Twice called to task. Not once but twice, Troop leaders did not kick him out. Later had multiple relationships with multiple boys (and we know what that means). He was not reported to police. Allowed him to write a letter of resignation.

BSA Settlement Trust Financials Thru 12/31/23 https://scoutingsettlementtrust.my.salesforce.com/sfc/p/#Dp0000016pkB/a/Uu000000e6l4/QDFa7uyndHmsnfZMMFiAnt0qCKrBIPkLSXKIzLDxTgU

This is not a factual statement. Part of the files were released to the public October 18th, 2012, and only after a court order. Even what was released covered only 20 years 1965 to 1985. Even today there are files that have not been released. Boy Scout 'perversion files' offer disturbing portrait of suspected abusers, handling of their cases - oregonlive.com "Many records show Scouting officials referring to sexual abuse in the vaguest terms -- describing it as "improper and indiscreet conduct with boys" or "abnormal conduct with boys."" This is part of the path of release and why so many people associated with BSA hate him 2006: Washington State Supreme Court rules that "perversion files" must be revealed to Seattle sex-abuse lawyer Tim Kosnoff. Here is a part of the Boy Scout efforts: "Clyde A. Brock, a 53-year-old bachelor, was twice "called to task" for taking nude photographs of Boy Scouts, displaying them around his Oregon City home, then showing them off to boys who visited. Yet troop leaders didn't kick him out. Only after two Scouts came forward to say Brock had "relationships with them as well as other members of the troop ...that cannot be condoned" was he expelled from Scouting in 1968. Scouting executives quietly blacklisted Brock from ever volunteering again, but let him skirt the accusations by writing a letter of resignation citing only his high blood pressure for quitting. Brock's case is included in 14,500 pages of confidential Boy Scout"

That is a far cry from saying we have files on men who have committed perverted sex acts upon young boys while engaging in the business of the Boy Scouts of America.