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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Debtor in Possession. Yup. That pesky word and legal concept of agency. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I'm glad you used the word "conflate" as opposed to anything accusatory. I'm not sure if you looked at his profile, but I highly doubt there is any malicious intent or volitional deception. My take. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I don't care what is there to be revealed, only that it become known and widely distributed. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
That is less egregious and doesn't implicate BSA, but nonetheless very wrong on multiple levels. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I'd say, affidavit(s) from those who experienced this firsthand. And, pronto. Sounds like they are there for the asking and a trip to the Notary. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I'm not an insider, but yes, no, no. This was initially in 2019, if I understood correctly. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Digital redirection is, in fact, direction/indirect recommendation, if this is correct. Direct nexus: this --> then that --> then the other thing. I'll wait to see the rest. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
If any "official" website for claims registration or reporting lead to AIS contacting a would be claimant, that is the same thing, unless the system was hacked. Redirection of a contact is, effectively, a direction/recommendation. I'll wait on the pillow dealio until I see the rest of the trail. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I have a string of expletives to unleash when I see the rest of this trail of bread crumbs, er, loaves. Going to get a pillow so my wife doesn't think I cut off some fingers or discovered my old car is missing. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Was the retainer agreement attached or included with any BSA presentation or materials? -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
So it's clear, AIS had it's first video briefing in Aug 7, 2019. During the conference, Stewart Einsenberg announced that a group of law firms (his firm as named at the time, Kosnoff Law, and Andrew van Arsdale/AVA Law Group) had "band together...partnered" under the banner of Abused In Scouting as early as February of 2019. This means, AIS was in existence well before the filing date one year later. What that means, of course, is they certainly COULD have been in a position to take such referrals IF they did, in fact, happen. Just want the timing to be out there and clarified. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=abused+in+scouting+announcment&t=brave&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpWjVtxoxZps -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
To reinforce, this is not just a request from a Scouter, but from me as a victim claimant. This is very important. Whatever you can/would share to corroborate would be helpful. I was told last night that "transparency is Scout-like." I appreciate yours already and, again, in advance. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Thanks for your service, by the way. I was looking... -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Would you please unpack this a little? I'm not sure I'm following the bouncing ball. Thank you muchly. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Yeah. What a dope. Trying to rustle up some clients. Anyone who doesn't know the difference between "suppress" and "repress" isn't to be trusted or taken seriously. Unfortunately, he will be by some who are unsuspecting. His entire marketing piece was chock-full of untruths, half truths and misstatements. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Huh? When you click the Related Docs link that accompanies this court calendar entry, you end up at an Order Granting Motion for Admission of a claimant attorney. Anyone have any notion of what up wit dat? https://cases.omniagentsolutions.com/calendar?clientId=CsgAAncz%2B6Yclmvv9%2Fq5CGybTGevZSjdVimQq9zQutqmTPHesk4PZDyfOOLxIiIwZjXomPlMZCo%3D)%2BAND%2B5059%3DBENCHMARK(32000000%2CMD5(0x63764c45))%2BAND%2B(1329%3D1329 -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Follow up. Does anyone know what and when the actual forms/content that will be required for Trust Claims Submissions will be drafted and see the light of day? Is that all in the post-approval melee? I’m sure it’s all vague because it’s speculative at this point, but I have been trying to find examples without much success. I would love it if someone would do a flow chart. We just need a flow chart, because I really like a good flow chart. (That better?) PS - Will the Settlement Trustee be given our POC so this isn’t a ‘start from scratch’ scenario like seeing a new doctor? “Here. Go sit over there and fill out all this crap so we have your medical history...” -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I say again, “He lives!” -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Yes. https://www.gillibrand.senate.gov/news/press/release/senator-kirsten-gillibrand-and-representative-gwen-moore-announce-legislation-to-encourage-states-to-end-statute-of-limitations-for-child-sexual-abuse -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Another of my random questions. Hoping someone knows the answer. Have any of the organizations who filed for Chapter 11 on the basis of child sexual abuse claims either: (a) voluntarily converted to 7 and when kaphlewie; or (b) went belly up not to long after emerging with a fresh balance sheet and new lease on life? A heard quite a statement the other day, attributed to the attorney who represented one of the RCC Diocese. He is reported to have told a LC, which he represents in this case pro bono, to paraphrase: “Don’t worry. The Diocese went through this, they’ve put it behind them and business is booming!” Seriously. I’ve not followed much of the afterglow for these groups once they pop out the other end of the gauntlet. Thank you. Thank you very much. [Nod to the King] -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
So, process question. Would such a partial payment be via and subsequent to the Settlement Trustee's review and value determination? I assume every survivor payment has to pass through his review, whether total or partial. Yes? Thanks berry much. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I’ve heard and seen it argued that, since sexual abuse cases are brought as torts/injury-based, if there was no “physical injury” resulting from the abuse, then it doesn’t really qualify as an injury. Yes, some sexual abuse directly involves physical injury, but not all. What percentage, I won’t even hazard a guess. Someone probably has numbers. The notion that no “injury” no damages is patently absurd. Clearly there is injury and that is widely accepted. “Nothing physical that’s broken or bleeding or lingering, so what’s the fuss? Show me your wound and I’ll agree it’s compensable.” In most cases, it’s largely about the ramifications of the abuse, so we must wade deeply into emotional and physiologic pain and all that stems from it. One example. In order to arrive at quantifiable medical expenses and lost wages, to name just a couple, don’t you have to follow the trail from the “abuse without physical injury” into the immediate and resultant emotional trauma that gives rise to the need for all manner of treatment, medication, therapy and lost wages, as well as other damages I won’t list? If you ascribe to the no injury theory, you stop at “no blood” and say, “Sorry. Nothing broken here.” Courts, medical experts, juries and society have coalesced around the contrary consensus that emotional trauma and life impacts are often the critical indicia of the abuse, as well as the source of real world (economic) damages. Is it less tidy than, “Dude! You broke my fishing rod so pay me the cash equivalent for a new one,” but no less real and convertible into dollars. Punitive damages? Another matter and more complex. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Yes. I hear you. To start, what all are you putting in the economic damages column for these child sexual abuse cases? I should have asked that first. Thanks. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I don’t want to argue about the rest of your post, but this is simply inaccurate and untrue. It’s one of the reasons BSA hasn’t, to my knowledge, put all the awards and settlement amounts in plain view. You can see how they’ve assigned value. Emotional distress, pain and suffering and life impacts have been in the injury and damages calculus for many years. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
One of the things I learned through my class action v. Aetna is they have a well-crafted, time-tested, two-deep strategy. The two amigos are Deny and Delay. Rinse. Wash. Repeat. From the point of my initial claim on a 36 session procedure to my ultimate denial on “independent 3rd party review” took about a year. The lawsuit itself took another 3 ish. I was not going away after certifying a class of 1250 similarly situation people, each with a legitimate claim for wrongful denial of coverage for a highly efficacious depression treatment. We got everyone money, even if they never went through with treatment because they couldn’t self fund. So, 4+/- years. That totally sucked, but it was required for them to come to the table and cough it up.