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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
You want dim sum, go to San Fransisco, CA. (Sorry NYC.) You want country music, go to Nashville, TN. You want the best beach, go to Hapuna on the Big Island of Hawaii. You want the best art, go to the Met in NYC, NY. You want the best BBQ, pie or hotdog...I ain't touching any of those. You want to survive Chapter 11, go to Wilmington, DE. Might be the one smart decision they made. Dunno. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
One will. To quote my beloved and now deceased father-in-law's favorite chef, "I garontee" it. I get 1972, 1973 and 1974 in one batch and 1975-1979 in the other. Yippee. More fun than a barrel full of monkeys. (I loathe monkeys, btw.) -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Excellent. He keeps saying all these cool, outlandish things I'm sending him via mental telepathy. I need these plot points, intrigue and conspiracy theories for my screenplay. Well done, TK. Right on cue. Bravo. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
I'm back to MYCVAStory's "NO WAY!" -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 6 - Plan 5.0/TCC Plan TBD
ThenNow replied to CynicalScouter's topic in Issues & Politics
Let’s call it a pushpin in the cork board or a chalk line on the sidewalk. Given strong objections from state plaintiffs’ attorneys and the TCC, that per abuse claim dollar figure needs to go up. (I realize you know that. I am circuitously objecting to the use of the word “set.”) -
I have no clue whatsoever where to put this. Maybe it’s here? Maybe it’s not? Maybe nowhere? Maybe it doesn’t matter anymore? I can assure you, there’s no legalese and it relates to this Chapter 11. Specifically, its impact on a victim claimant such as I. So that aside, here’s an update on what this process means to me. I would say it can serve as my start of the year report on, “How I spent my summer vacation,” but I spent two on this mess and lots of months in between. To be exact, 1 year, 6 months and 27 lovely days has BSA Chapter 11. So, given my mental, physical and psychological state over the past 574 days, my trauma therapist insisted we do updated testing to determine if I am still in the land of the living or swinging wide toward vapor. The tests I took are noted below. They are pretty fun. You should try a handful sometime. Long story not quite short, this dealio we’re in the midst of landed me on George Jetson’s treadmill. I am vigorously engaged, but slip sliding in retrograde motion. I’ve moved from the Recovery Phase to the Acute (Emergency) Phase of PTSD. WooHoo! Back to the future all over again. If anyone wonders what this is doing to the victims, now you know with sprinkles on top. Cheers. The End. UPPS-Impulsivity scale SADS-Social Avoidance and Distress Scale PCL-PTSD Checklist K10-Kessler Distress Scale GAD-Generalized Anxiety Disorder Scale FMPS-Frost Multidimensional Perfectionism Scale ECR-Experience in Close Relationships Scale DUDIT-Drug Use Disorders Identification Test DES-II-Dissociative Experiences Scale DERS-Difficulties in Emotion Regulation Scale DASS-Depression Anxiety Stress Scale MMPI-3- Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory SCID-V-Structured Clinical Interview for DSM Disorders
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Let’s see. Do we retain the goods or ante up? Got any mint condition garters and tabs?
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Betting odds, anyone? I can put up my Skill Awards collection, several vintage and rare OA pocket flap patches, a 12-year old’s personally carved woggle and an early 70’s Wolf Cub Scout Book sans the pages on tying a necktie. (I trashed them in frustration. No one would teach me and I kept failing utterly.)
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I see no panacea in sight and said nothing of the sort. I’m just tired of BSA’s flailing and luffing and whiffing and pandering. Enough already. Puh-lease.
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I don't know about all y'all, but I'm pretty much beyond ready for, "NO WAY" followed by "its plan is on the way." Let's have someone else drive the Exxon Valdez. We're within spitting distance of midnight and I think I see Bligh Reef on the radar. Still time to avoid disaster. Well, not so much, but you feel me.
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“Reached” was used by both BSA counsel and the media. That leaves “settlement” vs “resolution.” Whatever you say... Settlement - “an official agreement intended to resolve a dispute or conflict.” Resolution - “the action of solving a problem, dispute, or contentious matter.” They need to learn to use words like tentative, conditional, subject to and pending official approval. This is not rocket science. “DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN!” Whoops. Never mind.
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I’m sorry, but it is in no way appropriate to hang this on the media. As I’ve said since the Mosby statement, where in the heck are the wordsmiths, message massagers and semantic engineers? Good grief. Read the last line, in particular that double ‘r’ couplet: The agreement filed in court by BSA attorneys late Thursday would mark one of the largest sums in U.S. history involving cases of sexual abuse. The filing, known as a restructuring support agreement, includes the BSA, abuse victims, local Boy Scouts councils and lawyers appointed to represent victims who might file future claims. “After months of intensive negotiations, the debtors have reached resolution with every single official and major creditor constituency,” BSA attorneys wrote. https://apnews.com/article/boy-scouts-of-america-business-d945e210108b8af1b593c43910aae4c7
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
If I'm allowed a personal note, I was tending to the wedding of the last of the kiddos and rattling my saber in another venue. Yet again, my rights, person and dignity have been trampled upon. Thankfully, this instance provides a much less elusive 'target' and I have a fairly clear path to redress. The turgid pace of this party required I find something else with which to amuse myself. All inclusive present company excepted, of course. We are neither turgid nor lacking in amusement. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Ah. So terribly sorry for that man. Awful. As I suspected. Those findings of fault are eerily similar to a certain unmentionable suffered by many us. Well, except in our cases it had happened before, before and before some more. We made our own leaps of faith with catastrophic results. Come over here little boy. Jump head first into Scouting, but don't look now. Here comes El Cacuy. What was constructed and negligently maintained and operated is clearly is different, still maybe not so much so. Mr. Lehr's scenario is truly, truly tragic. Ours? Hm. $3M. A fair number. Apologies if this is out of place. I'm out of practice and have waned in my love of table tennis. -
Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
What was the nature and extent of the injury? Do people sign waivers prior to such adventures? Did s/he? Anyone else injured on this Indiana Jones reenactment? As in, prior knowledge and reporting/disclosure? -
AMSMBTN - “Ask Me Something More Better Than Nothing,” works for me.
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I keep checking Ancestry.com to see if they’ve listed the lineage. So far, no dice. I even bought a subscription and signed up for notices. Don’t wanna miss it. I’ll post the family tree with color commentary when it lands. -
I know active Scouters of this opinion are aware, but this level of retaliation and vitriol makes me - us, for those who agree - further understand how we have been treated. How would it not?
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Now, dropping this on the other side of the net. With permission. Let me know if this doesn't work, please. WSJ BSA 8.30.21.pdf
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Purely anecdotal, but I've heard three people say that very thing. Effectively, "Wait to give so you don't end up contributing to the take of a bunch of lawyers."
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With permission. Let me know if this doesn't work, please. WSJ BSA 8.30.21.pdf
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Have any of these folks landed in the judicial crosshairs prior to this lovely scenario? If so, to what end? What has been alleged by the insurers and their experts doesn’t speak highly of their methods or morals. Hoping to read ahead in this 10-part dramedy screenplay. Thanks. -
WSJ has an article found via a site search titled, “Boy Scouts Draw Plan to Settle With Sex-Abuse Victims, Exit Bankruptcy. Here’s What We Know.” It’s been up since 5:44PM yesterday. I’ve been unable to click through. Thinking it may be a placeholder.
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Chapter 11 Announced - Part 5 - RSA Ruling
ThenNow replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I know. We’re on two different levels of the mall trying to find each other. I get lost in a store, much less the mall. I’m talking about the breakdown of the small ‘c’ coalition of the TCC/FCR and big ‘c’ Coalition and all that can means to the next phases and processes, in addition to the vote. We have to get there, first, and together has been what’s kept things on track to this point. The Hartford deal created that little ‘c’s opposition camaraderie and the new Hartford deal may tear it apart. Oh, and getting their fees denied paved the way for the cave.