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That and it’s WAY too low.

I have no thoughts on the logic, but I do know the TCC is not pleased with the methodology being applied to the LDS contribution. One of the survivor to survivor wickets of the sticky variety that comes up in your scenario is taking some of us and further “pitting” us against the others of us. This is what I mean. Let’s say one man has an open state Tier One abuse claim with maxed out Scaling Factors. But, his LC (and let’s say CO) have tiny money. That will hurt to watch a lower tier fellow in an open state with big money get a more. Yes? Logical? Maybe. Ethical and painful? Maybe not, but definitely yes. There are all manner of permutations to this, going beyond the nagging feeling of being “cheated” based solely upon the geography of one’s abuse. One of the things I didn’t want to see going into this is the setting of one man against the other. SoLs already do this. These more complex variations would create even deeper lines of demarcation. Dunno. Just my feelings. I recognize those potentially illogical emotions sit idly by at the negotiation table, nearly irrelevant in light of the unpleasant realities of a black and white bankruptcy process. I ramble. Nothing new. At least I resisted veering into dark humor or contorted metaphor. Or so I hope.

Likewise.

I know this firm well. Great people and excellent attorneys. You’re in very good hands. If I need representation in this mess, they would be a firm I would contact. I don’t know their history in this area of the law (CSA), but they are known for quick ramp up time and mastery.

Hey, bro. What did I do wrong here? I missed my transgression. I didn’t mean to you, rather the angry accusation previously leveled against me. If it’s now a non-issue, not to worry. If I stand accused of dark humor in the name of comedic relief, I plead guilty.

Hey, bro. What did I do wrong here? I missed my transgression. Am not only in denial but having another dissociative fugue? Someone better call my mother to fetch me. Oh, and do her a solid and make me shower before she does. If I’m non-compliant, try ice cream… PS - You’re not missing much. I get all my jokes and I still don’t quite understand (me).

It should have a clause or reference to the fee issue, as well as mutual cancellation provision. They may be willing to release you. Only maybe. Further, if you have documentation of non-performance, you may have grounds IF notice has been given and deemed sufficient. Hopefully, you have someone who can help you assess this.

I have no idea what you’re talking or asking about at this point. Nor do I understand why you’re angry. Basically, I’m cornfusled. Anybody? Help a brother out? Perhaps Spartacus will chime in on that “cutsie” reference. That entire post was serious and sincere.

100%. In fact, Dr. Kennedy said, effectively, “If you can’t get a hold of your attorney, you probably need to get a new one!”

As to the former, it’s full of lies, scare tactics, hysterical fabrications and false accusations. As to the latter, it addresses the former, eviscerates them and tosses ‘em into the bass pond over their shoulders like so much chum.

From a survivor standpoint, I’m sorry if we didn’t make that clear. We are not just responding to each other or the many, many survivors watching, listening and learning. Have you noticed how, every so often, one of us chimes in who has not been seen before? Tip of the iceberg. Also, the press is here. Fact. Tim Kosnoff is here with a large audience, which includes survivors, the Coalition, the general public and even more press. This is a massive digital bulletin board with critical, broad and timely reach. That’s part of the reason a handful of “us” are so vocal and emotional. We try to speak for our brothers, though I never want to presume I am some gallant and brilliant mouthpiece. I do know I was a hen’s tooth when I opened my mouth almost one year ago and now we are many. We soldier on and do what we can. Btw, I’m grateful for this platform and won’t forget Spartacus who fought for me to “stay at our campfire.”

Yes. It’s ridiculous. I don’t know about “who approved,” but BSA’s lead counsel, Jessica Lauria, was self-congratulatory trumpeting this feat of font compression (suppression?) in the name of cost and tree saving. Her note of it was followed by a plea for all of us to recycle. I’m old school and I need paper to hold, scribble on and go back to for easy reference. I’ve said this to others recently, and we all know this, but this entire bankruptcy construct is horrible for a mass tort case. This is just one more illustration.

I am not calling anyone’s claim or legitimacy into question, but I’ve thought a lot about those numbers, having only my own frame of reference, experience and research to mull. As a survivor from an alcoholic, abusive home, I have a pretty good understanding of “walling off” memories. So, in light of that, I think the second number is very easy to understand, the first less so. I said this ages ago on the forum, but some geographic touch point seems available to most people. I lived in this town in this general location. We went to an Elk’s Club or school and I could walk. Something. I don’t understand that omission BUT the way many of us came into this process, thinking there was little to be done but submit the form, be believed and wait for an award, nothing really surprises me. One more note on your concern about simply stating, “I was abused.” If you were abused in the worst sorts of ways, the acknowledgment is a daunting task. I think of John Humphrey’s comment on the last TCC town hall. He said something to the effect that his abuser had “unfettered access to him for about 3 years (as I recall)...probably 200 times...anything he could do, he pretty much did.” Writing that down in black and white, especially in your own hand, is down and dirty awful and terrorizing. Some survivors had never so much as said ONE WORD about it out loud, much less write it down. Ever. Some only waded through daily grief and trauma, seldom allowing it to percolate to the surface with any measure of clarity. As many of us have said, filling out the POC was a brutally unsettling and dark process. Try to keep that in mine when you ponder how someone could would writ nothing more than, “I was abused.” That may have been more than they uttered in the entire 40-50+ years since it happened. Big stuff. Hard stuff. Ugly stuff. Just my take on it.

Take a look at what some of the non-CSA firms have gathered in terms of clients via the ad campaigns and aggregators. I am NOT saying those claims are illegitimate, but do some ciphering. If you have 500 clients who all take the $3500 off ramp, that ain’t bad for a days work (or whatever one wants to call it). What does $3500 x 500 x .40 reap? $700,000? What about 1000? 2500? And on and on. It’s sort of stunning, actually.

Everyone who agrees, please go to the video and upvote like crazy. Please. 🙏

Is that the 72 hour dealio?

https://www.wave3.com/prnewswire/2021/10/22/reject-vote-no-plan-say-boy-scouts-america-sexual-abuse-survivors/

Interested to hear if he had any history. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyfreeman.com/2021/10/20/rip-van-winkle-council-scout-leader-charged-with-periodic-sexual-conduct-with-juvenile/amp/

I’m not the arbiter of this, but I’ll note Mr. Kosnoff tweets with attribution to this forum. TCC town hall promotion is a public service. You can ask/post anything you want during their town crier events via Q&A, their site or email address. A guy I know found this in his email inbox. Curious. Greetings, You are receiving this message because you submitted a question to the Coalition during one of our recent Update Meetings. We were not able to respond to every question during the meetings. If we did not respond to your questions or we did not address them during the live presentation, please contact us at this address (BSACoalition@brownrudnick.com) to let us know how we can help. We will do our very best to respond promptly. Please also check out the Coalition’s website, www.ScoutingAbuseSurvivors.com. Sample documents and answers to frequently asked questions are provided on the site. Thank you for your support of the Coalition and survivors of abuse. Sincerely, The Coalition of Abused Attorneys for Payoff [name changed to implicate the guilty]

Note on this from the world of psychology and physiology, which we all pretty much know from our own study and my rants. Fear is an emotion/state that is a reaction to a threat, real or perceived. It typically produces self-protective responses, including increased flow of adrenaline and cortisol. Some of us fight. Some freeze. Some flee. And, many of us forget. When fear is used to intimidate someone toward danger, rather than away from it, this on its own fits squarely within the definition of abuse. If one lies to convince, lures with promises and instills fear to motivate, that is some bad juju right there. Let the fear mongers beware. Escaping into danger. I might write a play by that title. By way of true scholars: “The main function of fear and anxiety is to act as a signal of danger, threat, or motivational conflict, and to trigger appropriate adaptive responses…Ethologists define fear as a motivational state aroused by specific stimuli that give rise to defensive behavior or escape.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3181681/#__sec1title

I encourage all to go to this post on YouTube and leave your comments.

Oops. I forgot. Seriously. Please insert “Hoover” for all such references. If I could do a search and replace, I would. Sorry.

FYI! I think Mr. TK has noted this, but from an official Forum poster. Read this and weep, Mr. Rothweiler!! Just heard from a little birdie of my same type of feather that… Thursday's TCC Town Hall.... will… feature Michael Johnson taking questions from John Humphrey and Dr. Kennedy to further elucidate how ridiculously WEAK the youth protection part of this plan is. Ken & Brownie’s one seat on the board plan of salvation is pointless, meaningless and no measure of redress. Neither this plan nor that celebrated non-Phoenix will stop the abuse. Tune in all ye who hear my voice, er, digital conveyance!!

Ok. So, as I have seen and expect from future town halls hosted by the TCC and Coalition of Abused Attorneys for Payoff, I think these are some keys: 1) apathy from some, perhaps many, who just don’t vote; 2) the potentially significant number who grab the $3500 exit ramp and take the Snagglepuss path to resolution, the calculation of which the judge is likely to reduce by some factor; 3) the high motivation to vote “Hey’ll NO!” by the likes of us survivors on this forum (and Kosnoffites); 4) the ongoing absurdity of the Ken & Co. Late Show, which I believe is bombing BIG TIME. In my analysis watching and taking my glorious notes, that fuse was, is and will be lit by the contrived emotion and repeated fabrication of ill-motive and complacency by the TCC. Messa would bet the (“Hey’ll NO!” vote) ratings will likely bear it out; and 5) an increasing number of survivors will watch The TCC Is Me, where we get the straight skinny, fire breathing from the Stang and the sort of vulnerability and commitment to fight for ALL BSA SURVIVORS, as displayed by John and Dr. Kennedy last night. (Those very real tears and moment of clear anguish by Dr. K is very attractive (in the literal sense) and compelling for us. When I hear and see stuff like that, I am even more locked-in to believe those guys and track with their recommendation. Greater future attendance will translate to more “Hey’ll NO!”. Also, if the media does what I hope they do (and have inklings they will), there will be a new clarion from articulate survivor voices popping out of our bunkers and getting fair coverage. That serves to add to our numbers and additional votes for the good guys. This is the thinking swirling around in my little brain, anywho. I predict caviar tears will fall and champaign dreams will turn into nightmares. So say we all? (Nod to Battlestar Galactica.)

Is there a TDP-type claims matrix in the case? I’m none too familiar with the case. As in, who gets how much and based on what calculus? Or, is it Evie Stevie? Also, is the insurance portion an established contribution, ala Hartford’s turd or TBD as to hoped for funding?