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No. I had to find a source willing to give it to me. To answer my question, 27 pages. And, some of the sub-charts are very small, due to how deep and wide there are. Boy, howdy, but ain’t this one sure ‘nough high density skyscraper?! “I just adore a penthouse view, dah-ling...!”(Heart palpitations and a genteel nod to Zsa Zsa.) PS - Does this mean I have to turn in my Eagle Scout cufflinks? Mercy...

PS - Anyone who doesn’t know want to hazard a guess on how many full pages comprise the National org chart?

Question for Scouters: If you made a list of the top 5 things National needs to do to implement transformational change, what would be on it? No need to include elements of YPT. I would like to see if there is significant concurrence among you. From the list I’ve made, there are several elements that have been repeated many times by various of you over the 27 years I’ve been lurking. Thanks.

Fast forward to todays docket…

Ok. The collage is being filled in...note how the text is either faded back or in bold.

Ok. One down and I live to tell the tale. The only thing missing from that Sheldon Law Group infomercial - and I was waiting on the edge of my seat - was the backend pitch for a Ginsu Knife Set and/or a pair of Bass-O-Matics. “Call before midnight tonight and you’ll also receive 12 free ShamWows!! That’s right folks...!!” (NO offense to any survivor claimant represented by that law firm. I am merely reacting to the script and two actors who played concerned professionals on my laptop screen. Ack.)

This is one large piece of the ugly collage missing from my knowledge base. I do not have social media accounts (other than this enterprise, if it qualifies), nor do I watch television with commercials, if I can help it. Admittedly, I haven’t looked to find them, but does anyone have a handy link or three so I can take a peek? I will guard myself as I walk carefully into the den of Shelob and Aragog, aka the dark web of claims aggregation and mass tort gillnetting. Forgive me. Was that too strong? 🤔

If you’ve not listened to this, I highly recommend it. Although dated back to July, it is very meaningful. I recognize she doesn’t present a current depiction of YPT, so I know there will be objections. Suffer me or don’t listen. If you do, please make note of her comments about the work they are doing with insurance companies to create a standard for youth organizations to get insurance coverage for child sexual abuse liability. I know this organization well and met Marci virtually. She is the founder and CEO of CHILDUSA. She is a law professor with a Vanderbilt undergrad, two Penn State Masters and earned her JD from the University of Pennsylvania where she was Editor-in-Chief of the Law Review. I have pasted a link to the NPR interview, one to her bio and another to her Wiki page. https://dianerehm.org/audio/#/shows/2021-07-09/what-the-boy-scouts-settlement-says-about-justice-for-child-sex-abuse-victims/116455 https://childusa.org/management/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marci_Hamilton

This was the number initially logged by the TCC back when. They have begged men to amend with additional data to supplement their initial filing, but I have no update on how many did so.

Yup.

Proofs of Claim are filed under penalty of perjury subject to a $500,000 fine, 5 years in the hoosegow or both. Also, they have malpractice insurance for the client.

This has several layers that need to be remembered: 1) 6165 POCs stated no date or date range; 2) 38,663 had no mention of LC or, to my understanding, identifying geographic markers to make the required connection; 3) Did every child get registered without out fail? My Unit was every which way and loose; 4) As stated by one of the LC attorneys, some of the paper rosters are like handling the Dead Sea Scrolls or worse. They turn to ash in your hands like so much magician’s flash paper; 5) No one thought such a record search would ever be needed to this degree and across the entire range of the organization; and 6) As stated many times, some of the claims are fraudulent and/or so badly mishandled on intake as to make them on the one hand facially invalid and on the other subject to exclusion. Any attorneys found to have improperly vetted otherwise valid claims should be disbarred, regardless if the claim can be cured.

Interesting look back... https://legalnewsline.com/stories/574366277-hearing-tomorrow-about-possibly-fraudulent-sexual-abuse-claims-against-boy-scouts

I know little about BSA’s boards or the functions of them. I can say I’ve been on 5 boards and advised another. Four non-profit, one for-profit and the advisory role was a non-profit. Among them, the greatest number of members on an executive board was 192, give or take. The next largest was an non-profit advisory board made up of big donors and political types. It had about 13 and they were titular, but looked swell on the letterhead. Guess which entity had the whopper? The permanent survivor seats need to be set at 1/10th of the board, IMNSHO. They should be competent and serious board members and there are many, many who would fit the bill and do an excellent job.

I’m not sure I can top that. It’s already a classic. I might frame it in memory of my life in the BSA Chapter 13 Pit of Despair. Still, I’m only mostly dead...there’s still time, however.

Ha. “Second Thoughts” is the name of the soup du jour on this Hell’s Kitchen menu: Kosnoff - Dang. Why did I start the Coalition, again? D-oh!! The Stang & Lucas - For the love of Pete, what happened with the email list serve?! BSA C-Suite - I didn’t say, “FIRE MICHAEL JOHNSON,” you ninny! I said, “HIRE CHARLES BRONSON!” Coalition Attorneys - I signed how many proofs of claim? Dang it. Someone show me those Proofs of Claim, rapido! Judge Silverstein - I knew I should’ve gone on Covid sick leave. I just knew if. Closed State Survivors - Mom, dad, why did we move from California to Alabama when I was 10, again? BSA Attorneys - Weren’t we going to raise our hourly rates on February 17, 2020? Did someone forget to do that?! Bring them to me NOW! TCC - Who forgot to give the other mediation parties our digits? Are those emails going into the Junk file or wha? Are phone lines down? I knew we shoulda switched to fiber optic... Survivors - Would someone, ANYONE, remind me why I decided to do this again? Check with my therapist to see if masochism is in my diagnosis? I better do another assessment this next session. David Buchbinder - And to think, I was fully vested in the pension program on 1.1.2020. Jessica Lauria - I have no regrets. Look at who I married in the midst of this. I’m set to infinity and beyond, thank you very much. Should I go on?

A few things: 1) Actually, RP stated that Kosnoff and KR had this thing in a knot long before the infamous email snafu by his firm, which he owned; 2) The PSZJ firm was going to pay all cost associated with the Ombudsperson, however; 3) He withdrew that motion and will redraft a new one based around the court’s authority and duty to force the three firms - though AVA just says, “Vote however you want, this firm of one has got new cats to skin” - to speak with through one communication/voice, however conflicting the advice. At least it needs to be in one letter. This is all built on the Code and Code of Ethics that concur as to forcing co-counsel of differing opinions to get their stuff together and act like adults; 4) David Buchbinder recommended both Kosnoff Law and KR’s firm get gagged as to all direct communications about how to vote on the plan. By the by, Kosnoff’s attorney previous approached KR’s to do a joint clarification and the offer was rebuffed. “Some” people LOVE this drama; 5) Molten argued you can’t interfere with an attorney’s right to communicate with their client; 6) The counter argument was these are not mere “communications” between attorney and client, but solicitations on how to vote. And, they are shooting out of the KR firm like so many Gandalf in the Shire fireworks; 7) RP said the TCC attorneys have heard from many AIS clients who turn in “REJECT” votes and get multiple strong-armed follow up calls from KR’s crew trying them to change their vote. I want to hear from some of those clients; 😎 I highly doubt the judge will delay. She’s behind the 8 ball as it is; 9) The ruling on discovery only goes to venue, not substance. She ruled it is permissible and proper to propound discovery on attorneys who signed proofs of claim. She warned them when they begged her to allow them to do it. Now, as she warned, they have made themselves targets. The basis was POCs are evidentiary in nature in a bankruptcy proceeding and the signatories are affirming they have knowledge of the truth of the statements and do so under penalty of perjury punishable by up to $500,000 and 5 years in the slammer or both; and 10) The Coalition has hired a Mr. Robinson, a high-power US Supremes attorney to fight the discovery. He asked for a stay threatening her being overturned on appeal and she denied. As to firms getting stink on them, I doubt it. History is replete with A-level players in multiple arenas tanking one day and trading up the next. Anyone who knows the case can see it’s an anomaly and a putrid mess of complexity, ill-motive, third party funding and who knows what degree of aggregator shenanigans. Hello. And good-bye. For now...

I’m clueless. I guess I’m off the forum for a while if this is how it’s going. I am sincerely unsure what you’re saying or trying to indicate.

1) You didn’t “explain” at all. You posted the same thing, without any reference to how it applied. I was letting people know this was sent, which is obviously relevant to others; 2) Tim Kosnoff’s Tweets and notes are being posted here over and over; 3) I am not a client of any attorney, nor am soliciting or advertising anything for anyone. I am certainly not looking for clients. Honestly, neither was he. The letter says nothing more than what’s been repeated here innumerable times and reflected in the TK Tweets similarly posted; and 4) Your bounce back echo repeat of what you said you said (but didn’t) is what I referred to as “cryptic.” You don’t explain something by giving a person a rule if it isn’t clear how it applies (or doesn’t). You understand it. I do not. Maybe it is not evident on its face and I’m just a dunce.

See below. If my message hadn’t been inexplicably deleted, you would see I received the same. The email (and my post) indicated it was sent by The Stang’s firm. BSASurvivors@pszj.com. Check to see if yours is, as well.

Yes, but did I violate some rule unwittingly? Just trying to behave myself...thanks.

Is this for me? Some of these directives are a bit cryptic. I never know quite when to fall on my sword, object, plead ignorance, meg for mercy or run for cover.

Letter (email?) sent by Mr. K, as forwarded by The Stang & Co. Dear Clients of AIS: Today the e-Ballot went out to you a few minutes ago from Eisenberg Rothweiler. I was not expecting it to be sent by that firm. I was not given an opportunity to review it and the reason is because that firm knew I would have objected to its form and content. It was wholly improper and possibly illegal for them to solicit your vote on a ballot that is supposed to be neutral. Instead they used deceit to spew their patently false and misleading statements. There is a simple word for why lawyers do things like that: greed. Please find my October 19, 2021 letter urging you to REJECT the Plan. I ask you respectfully to read my letter again. If you do, I am confident you will reach the same conclusions I did. Contact information hidden. Thank you. Timothy Kosnoff TIMOTHY D. KOSNOFF Licensed Attorney Contact information hidden.

Not sure if these have been posted, but here are the first two BRG Dashboards: https://8ccee3aa-ea25-43bc-b0a6-5e0a565e1bf2.filesusr.com/ugd/c1f98e_b3f0e214c3ab4a70bc1a7c3bd2c9248b.pdf https://8ccee3aa-ea25-43bc-b0a6-5e0a565e1bf2.filesusr.com/ugd/c1f98e_26837acf3e0e44e09ee662682d901ff5.pdf

Does anyone know the key firms opposing the Plan? I know Zuckerman, Anderson & Associates, and several CA groups. I would love to know the aggregate total clients among them.