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Ok. So, what about a parent who wants to register so they are able to hang out at camp, but can’t/doesn’t care to invest the additional bucks?

Isn’t there the YPT requirement or is that separate from registration? I thought the background checking and YPT certification were “all of a piece,” as they used to say.

I appreciate the explanation. Related, but not to imply this needs to be applied to parents, what is the annual cost and commitment to be registered? That is both as to the individual and the Unit. Thanks.

Would you please explain this further? I think you’re saying the parents, under the current 72 hour rule, can join the camp out and are there as/can be a second layer of accountability, observing the registered leaders. Is that correct?

I spoke with someone who’s been covering this stuff and LSS for years. Called it “going rogue” and something never before seen in many years of reporting. Again, she looked disappointed and not just a little betrayed. Ok. Add disgusted to the list.

I was flashing between the Coalition attorneys and those of the BSA while this was going down. “The eyes are the windows of the soul” and I saw some scrambling going on behind those curtains. How I wish I had a bug in those board rooms. Ok. Strike that. I meant a rightly positioned shotgun mic so as not to run afoul of the rights of privacy and all that constitutionalie stuff.

As to the last point, thank you. As to the balance, I am confused and may need bullet points. I’m not sure if I’m helping, being accused, used as the donkey who’s getting a tail pinned on and/or if you understood me to be asking amends from you. Maybe someone else can break it down for me, MC Hammer style, using few words. Balloon pants and pirouettes not required. All seriousness aside, I’m not sure I’m interpreting your post correctly. Apologies. (By the by, I have been hoping you’d respond with a list. I appreciate your experience, heart and wisdom.) PS1 - I was talking about National and the mindset I have come to understand. PS2 (Not the gaming system) - I respect what you do with kids and that scouting is worth preserving. 100%. In fact, the stories you and others tell motivate me to know what you guys and gals think. I only wish I could’ve been under your watchful eyes and tutelage.

Is this your new moniker or a jujitsu move? I like it for both, if anyone asks. My thoughts go to the same overall conclusion, but I will wait patiently for more submissions. (Get it?)

I promised not to copy, regardless the broad permissions I am granted. I don’t need another scarlet letter on my forehead. Suffice it to say, the news is landing. If you can get there, here’s one. Law360 has another. https://www.wsj.com/articles/retired-judge-pushed-out-of-boy-scouts-bankruptcy-mediation-11638915587

Know why? Per said yachting used to was and is again attorney, “Judges rule...that’s what they do...so RULE,” or something to that effect. She is starting to call em likes she sees em. I felt the breezes from the two whiffs earlier in the day. One was a split finger fastball, the other a wicked curve. I’m hoping the next one is an unhittable knuckler. I love watching that, but not trying to introduce wood to leather.

I hate to say it, but I’ve worn that look way too many times after one of my kiddos pulled some ill-advised, doofus move. It’s called disappointment. It’s hard to disguise that facial expression and roll of the eyes. I must say, to her credit, she totally nailed it. I give her a solid 10. She even stuck the landing. (See above.)

“Big swing,” indeed. Sorta like one attached to a huge tree next to some scary frigid water, over which one party has just been launched while the other sits calmly on the shady bank, smiling and saying, “Jump! You’ll be fine. If you don’t, I’ll just push you back out anyway.” Okay. That was an awesome word picture. Am I right or am I right? I know. I’m right.

So, remember the Kosnoff/TCC email thing? Me either. I just had a “flashy thing” *poofed* before me and that is no longer in my memory bank as of...NOW. This day, I shall not forget. (Nod to Men In Black.) WOWZERS!!

Bam. Cancel tonight’s yacht party with “rich friends.” Whoops. “Failed to brief” is not something a movant wants to hear when the ruling is against them, potentially on the basis of that sin of omission.

Is it the one with old school campfire songs, exploded diagrams for building a 15’ bonfire and how to make cobbler for 25? Jk. I have not. Does it answer my questions, presumably based on historical context that will give me map coordinates or breadcrumbs to find the answers?

Two questions: 1) Was BSA ever connected to the ground, once the growth exploded early on and all manner of layers and fiefdoms were spun into motion; and 2) Why was Roger selected to lead the organization into and through the bankruptcy, besides being a lifer with the engrained “BSA Nation first” mentality? I understand he has a long history of high level HR leadership in major corporations and there were sure to be RIFs. That limited basis makes sense. Fitting a leader to the moment in time, critical context and transition, not so much. Thanks to any who want to enlighten my addled noodled.

I hope no one will be offended if some of the highly detailed recommendations don’t make the summary. I am trying to focus on changes that would be transformative. For example, running through many of the conversations and said in various ways applicable to multiple contexts, it’s clear National is disconnected from the “ground.” That was pointed out quite literally within the practical recommendation that all exec’s need to go to summer camp and camp out four times each year. That is an excellent way to start addressing an acute, macro-level cultural, informational and relational deficit. It was also illustrated when all of you were luffing, wondering and wandering in the shadow secrecy of the bankruptcy, as well as myriad other historic issues. In a way, this forum put a spotlight on the problem and addressed it at the same time. I’ve learned from you that BSA has no system or apparent desire to foster “management by walking around” or a rigorous, routine 360 degree self-examination. I don’t mean the desire is completely missing, but intent and purpose are only real if they are seen; lived out in the world of people, not ideas and platitudes. (That’s why I used the word “apparent.”) As it has been said, “Show me your faith [what you believe or say you believe] by your works.” I have been shocked by this BSA blindspot, frankly. I know exactly what I would have done as the Chapter 11 paperwork was about to be filed, but I am not them and they are not me. Ok. I would have done it before or concurrent with Roger being hired, but that’s really easy to say with hindsight. PS - Could there be (is there?) a different thread that talks about specific things BSA could do to foster transformational change, to include specific things that streamline, simplify and help you do your work? Dunno. The ideas are sprinkled all over this forum. I should have started picking the low-hanging fruit when I started noticing it. My bad. I know many of you have little hope of that kind of change so may see it as not worth the effort, at this point.

Guten morgen! Look ⬆️!! See what that guy said who’s presently standing on my head. I genuinely covet your input. Many of you have had very astute observations over lo these many months and I am working to compile these ideas. I entreat thee, good countrypersons, please honor me by adding to my growing pile of theses. I am seeking 95. (Some of you get that.) Danke.

From the limited amount I know, evidence of: 1) Repeated, unrelenting browbeating about the Plan, including unwillingness to take “I’m voting ‘NO!’ for an answer, plus serial texts and emails; 2) Failure to communicate and/or be available; 3) BOLD “VOTE YES!” message on the face page of the e-ballot; 4) Failure to address direct questions about voting procedures and specific elements, like the opt-out and $3500 off ramp; and 5) In stark contrast, TK being readily available and supportive live via text and cellular telephonic device.

I’ve been doing a goodly amount of research on mass torts, including non-bankruptcy. At or very near the heart of the controversy is the inherent conflict present for attorneys representing more than one client who could - and very often do - end up having conflicting interests in the case. The bankruptcy context is recognized as an utter mess of conflicted representation and unsuitable forum for such cases. (This is a perfectly suited forum, however. I digress...) Then there’s the issue of third party funding and aggregators. Ack. The BSA Chapter 11, with AIS and the Coalition featured in the starring roles, will provide years of fodder for law review and other scholarly articles. I predict it will be studied long after I go down for a pedolithic night-night.

E.R. Being the Eisenberg Rothweiler firm. (Anyone else notice that autocorrect changes Ken’s surname to Rottweiler? I just report the news, I don’t make it.)

The motion being heard is E.R.'s effort to seal TK's deposition, specifically the clients' emails/texts/etc. The clients appeared to emphatically confirm they made clear, knowing and informed waivers of the attorney/client privilege. They were adamant they want the communications illustrating the browbeating and serial Plan support communications from E.R. to be made public. Does that explain it? Judge's issue went to whether the waiver was "sufficiently informed as to potential downsides." The clients made it clear it was. I bet she denies the motion to seal. My non-litigator's guess. Ruling will be tomorrow at a TBD hearing.

Oh, oh. Don't look know, but E.R. just got their hinder lit on FIRE. Two clients who consented to TK presenting their communications from E.R. with the court, unsealed and unredacted, just went live and addressed the court. Wow. "The roof. The roof. The roof is on FIRE!!"

I had an epiphany this morning. I know. Scary, coming from me. Here it is. BSA is an addict. It refuses to realize it has hit rock bottom. Therefore, it does not want to get help. It’s not ready. It thinks all will be well, once the evil bankruptcy monkey is exorcised from the backpack. It does not see nor welcome the Chapter 11 process as the reorganization and restructuring intervention opportunity it is. It will not go to rehab. It will not do a “searching and fearless moral inventory” of itself. It does not want to receive input from those who care and know what ails it. It will not admit it is “powerless over its addiction” to the past, its image, its ways, its mindset and its self-perception. It will not make a “list of those it has harmed or become willing to make amends,” much less “make direct amends wherever possible.” I could go on, but I’m going to fetch another cup of coffee and see if I can get a vision illuminating the path to my next big stock pick. Brb... PS - I am not only referring to survivors for that list of amends. I include you guys. Nothing on the stock yet. Still roasting beans.

Explain for the slow learner, please?