InquisitiveScouter

@MattR On that point, I agree. The video title does enter the realm of clickbait. But the title does not diminish the importance and perspective of the thoughts, experiences, facts presented by, and advice of any of those it portrays.

@fred8033, to your point, and to move the discussion forward with you I respectfully ask you to search for a You Tube video on the interview with Mike Rowe (an Distinguished Eagle Scout, I'm sure you know) titled The Scouts' wounds are 'self-inflicted' To save those whose feelings would be hurt by the content of that video, and not to burden the thinly stretched moderator corps, I will not post the video here. It goes to the heart of the discussion here.

"must pertain to the original post and respectfully move the discussion forward." How does this not pertain to DI&E MB requirements? Req 1. The video address facts and opinions of influential people who are members of a perceived disaffected group. Helps to understand what "equity" and "bigotry" are and are not. These people are perfect examples of "upstanders." They witness unjust accusations and asperisons being cast, and they address them publicly with facts and experience. Req 2. Self-evident Req 3. Replete with examples Req 6. Yup Req 8. Yup @MattR , I respectfully disagree with your assessment. Lol, @CynicalScouter I just thought, maybe I should be a Merit Badge Counselor for this!

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Because subversion and deceit go against the Scout Oath and Law, and my own personal code of ethics.

I saw that, too.

Your statement could not be more prejudiced, bigoted, racist, and classist. And this merit badge will never help you see yourself in the mirror.

Because of the inherent political agenda of the entire enterprise, and the misguided intent with which it has been established. I will not indoctrinate Scouts into the language and mindset of "social justice warriors". Nor will I tread on territory I deem sacrosanct to parents. Over the past few weeks, I have been deep in research and thought, prayer, and in discussion with conservatives and liberals whose opinions I value. This may be the straw that breaks the camel's back, and ushers me out the door of the Boy Scouts of America. Although I have a fundamental belief that our American youth are not being encultured to value who we are as a country (warts and all), and have sought to take personal action to remedy that through my years of participation in and service to Scouting, I find as those years have gone by, the BSA establishment and I have been on a divergent path. I do find many kindred spirits at the grass roots level...in the units, which gives me validation and hope. But my usefulness at the "institutional level" seems to be drawing rapidly near its end. I have made a commitment to serve as Scoutmaster for the next six months. My son just completed his Board of Review for Eagle Scout. My daughter will complete hers in January. The timing is perfect, and almost seems ordained

I would never in a million take this merit badge on as a counselor

This is the video I would share as a MBC:

Would this be fodder for the presentation requirement in #5, or for #6? https://www.dailywire.com/news/judge-rules-father-who-raped-daughter-can-receive-sex-change-on-taxpayer-dime https://www.ohiocrimelaw.com/blog/2014/01/tax-dollars-pay-for-sex-change-for-inmate-really/ reductio ad absurdum

Here is a National Office Hours video put out recently... Discusses DE&I requirements and says they are already approved (and that was 12 Nov.) Scouts may start earning the badge on 01 Jan, required to earn for Eagle on 01 May. Also notes that there will be no pamphlet, just Notes for the Counselor. (Can't find those yet.) Also says there will be rank requirements for Scout through First Class. Rank requirements will not be in Scoutbook until 01 May. https://scouting-org.zoom.us/rec/play/p2Uq0xy0QJ9DAOZf1mIK2AKqCPaI-sCDyhQ8XSF1ToF-3PRz6i7nykYtnGe1nuIea6nyz57NNl2lOtmS.P95iGTFSGTTs1iPe

Where was that one? Do you have a link? All we saw was this... https://scoutingwire.org/bsas-commitment-to-act-against-racial-injustice/

Shame on you for trying to promote peace and harmony based on the commonalities of our human condition! Back to the education camp with you! You may return when you promote tribalism and identity politics veiled in terms like "diversity, " "equity," and "inclusion." https://medium.com/@samuelkronen/modern-tribalism-and-the-danger-of-identity-politics-33150fd257f2 https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-when-the-left-goes-too-far-the-dangerous-doctrine-of-equity https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/blog-posts/lie-of-diversity/

Colleges and universities, judicial system, language, media, family, etc... This is just part of the long march through the institutions... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_long_march_through_the_institutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution

Clash of the Titans! (Although, they weren't Titans.)

@ParkMan How about this for the new DE&I MB requirements? 1. Don't judge someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes. 2. Love your neighbor as you love yourself. The End I could go for that...but I think those are already encapsulated in the Scout Oath and Law. And the only angst I sense here is yours. Physician, heal thyself!

Thanks, @CynicalScouter! This crucial piece hadn't even crossed my thoughts... Wonder if the MB writers and those who will make the final decision to promulgate will consider the wide body of state law?? Or will they push something and have it blow up in their faces??

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-power-prime/201908/perception-is-not-reality Or...if perception is reality, then what do you do with this? https://www.npr.org/2017/10/24/559604836/majority-of-white-americans-think-theyre-discriminated-against

The last time this was visible from Earth was during the Early Middle Ages in Europe between the Fifth and Sixth Crusades, and the reign of Genghis Khan in the East. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/jupiter-and-saturns-great-conjunction-is-the-best-in-800-years-heres-how-to-see-it/ If you can view it, it should be awesome!

Can't! Must complete the requirements "as written"

No, that's fine...and, oh, by the way...let's offer this one at Summer Camp, too! Jimmy is 15, and this is zir (Jimmy's preferred pronoun) second year on staff. Ze doesn't have the merit badge zirself, but if ze teaches it, we will sign it off for zim. Can you imagine how the merit badge mills will go with this one?? BSA has a good amount of work to do on this draft before they cut it loose to parents and some religious CO's.

How can you discuss those topics without the Scout understanding the meaning of the terms?

@Eagle94-A1 Right on...they should put in a blurb like that in Home Repairs MB: "Either a parent or the merit badge counselor may supervise the Scout’s work on any Home Repairs requirements." And Family Life "*This conversation may take place with only one or both of your parents or guardians."

Also, how does this jive with the Scouter's Code of Conduct? "6. I will not discuss or engage in any form of sexual conduct while engaged in Scouting activities. I will refer youth with questions regarding these topics to talk to their parents or spiritual advisor" As a parent, I would not want anyone else talking to my kids about topics of sexual orientation and gender identity. Our public schools don't even tread this ground...