InquisitiveScouter

Almost I would contend that referencing is a tool in the toolbox for the "E" in EDGE. Don't always have to use it, but I do in most cases. Also think the "E" should include explaining WHY we do things, versus just the HOW. Why do we wash our dishes this way? Why do we use a particular knot? Why do we go 200 feet away to dig our cathole? Why do we use the EDGE method???? 🤪😜🤪 Most people respond better to learning when they know the "why." Gives them a sense of purpose more than just "Because that is the requirement!" yuck...

Yes, do. But the same essential problems rear their head: 1. No one reads. (This includes adults.) 2. Many do not learn from reading. (This includes adults.) When I give rides to Scouting events, we always use the drive time productively. Scouts who want to cover requirements, discuss merit badges, troop or patrol business, often jump in the car with me and the SPL/ASPL. I point the way, and the SPL/ASPL or senior Scout does the instruction and sign off...it is a beautiful thing. The Scout/SPL/PL Handbooks (my personal copies) are staple items during the ride. We often read aloud short sections and discuss the content, examples, and how to teach or apply. We set goals. We evaluate outcomes. We review progress, on individual, patrol, or troop levels. However, and here is my challenge to all adult leaders...You have to know your stuff. Read the dang things yourselves, so you know what the heck you are talking about. You don't have to know the answers, but you do have to know WHERE to find the answers. The literature becomes the authority rather than you becoming the authority. In time, they can and do look for the answers themselves. Then they don't need you anymore (for the most part )

Preach it, brother!! This is the same with parents For adult leaders, take a moment and ask yourself, "How would this decision violate the Scout Oath or Law?" If you do not come up with an answer that you can reason through and articulate to another adult, give the Scout the leeway to pursue. And yes, you will often be tempted to say "I've seen this a hundred times, and it never works out, so do it the way I recommending to you." Don't. Pick your battles wisely. Bite your cheek, swallow the blood, and resist the "I told you so" when the time comes. Your Scout will grow, and will grow to respect you and your advice even more

Guide to Awards and Insignia, pages 15-17 https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/33066/33066_Guidelines_for_Custom_Patches_And_Emblems.pdf?_gl=1*b4ey4f*_ga*MTgzNjYxMTcxNC4xNjIwOTkzNDI1*_ga_20G0JHESG4*MTYyNjE4NTU3OC40Ni4xLjE2MjYxODY4MTEuNTI.

@SiouxRanger and others, please read Section 1 of your Scout Handbook The model is there...

We have Scouts plan outings...tooth to tail, using a one-page checklist from Troop Leader Guidebook, which is pretty good. They have to report to PLC at each milestone...3 months, two months, one month at the formal PLCs, and then the two weeks, one week at short PLCs after meetings See page 20 in the pdf... https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/512-150_appendix(15)_web.pdf

Leadership through outdoor adventures!!

Who is held accountable for any of the other items?? One of the most often repeated ideas to parents is, "Stand back, shut up, and watch..." Of course, in much nicer terms than that Leaders don't develop until you put them in the hot seat. Scouts are amazed, at first, when you "Train 'em, trust 'em, and let 'em lead!"

Even more evidence requiring...DuctTape for National Commissioner!!! #DuctTapeIsTheMan! #DuctTape4NationalCommissioner

Yikes... Nothing wrong with have more than one Quartermaster, Scribe, Outdoor Ethics Guide, etc... Heck, we have an Eagle Board of Review tonight for a Scout who has only held a Den Chief position for his entire time. At one time, he actually thought he was required to hold some other positions. When we told him he could do what he loved and still develop as a leader, he was very stoked. We told him his ultimate aim was to instill in all of his Cubs/Webelos a desire to continue on to Scouts, whether they joined our Troop or not. Then we helped him set SMART goals every six months to improve his performance and abilities as a Den Chief. He has grown tremendously in that role, and I look forward to congratulating him tonight after his EBoR!

Ha! Just went mountain biking this morning, and cut loose buddy pairs on over 10 miles of loop trails. "You have a map, water, and a first aid kit?" "Yes!" "OK, have fun..we'll be here at the picnic table if you need us ;)"

-The smile and look of absolute, pure joy from the Scout (with a single mom) with cerebral palsy who caught his first fish! - The grin from the small-statured Scout who learned to handle a canoe solo and completed Canoeing Merit Badge... - Running into an Eagle Scout at Philmont, now a Scoutmaster, who I hadn't seen in 20 years, and he tells his Scouts there, "This is Mr. X!", and the look of wonder from them that I really do exist...I can only imagine the stories he told...like how he felt when he finished his first 50-miler in our old Troop, or really learning to navigate and orienteer in deep woods... - Going through the Pledge of Allegiance phrase by phrase with a Scout (5th grader) who was having difficulty understanding it (he could recite it fine...) and seeing the light bulb come on when he learned what words like pledge, allegiance, republic, indivisible, and justice mean... - The puffed-out chests of the patrol who was proud of camping out on their own (no adults) (when that sort of thing was allowed...) and on, and on, and on

One of the prizes for our uniform inspection contests is you get to take one CSP from my collection

So, will they just tack on a $150 price hike to HA tuitions as a "make you pay for our sins" tax?

All, you would do well to review the CDC recommendations for treating backcountry water. Bottom line up front: When in backcountry, best option is boiling. When in possible chemical contamination/heavy viral load areas, filtering AND chemical treatment are recommended. https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/drinking/Backcountry_Water_Treatment.pdf (Main page link https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/travel/backcountry_water_treatment.html ) https://www.msrgear.com/blog/water-treatment-101-viruses/ I teach classes on this at our Scouting University, with discussions on the different pathogens (and sizes of them), and the difference between nominal versus absolute pore sizes in filtration systems. https://www.wqa.org/learn-about-water/common-contaminants/bacteria-viruses Most Lifestraw products are rated at 0.2 microns absolute... viruses are smaller than 0.1 microns, so most Lifestraw products won't cut it, except Lifestraw Mission (0.02 microns) https://lifestraw.com/pages/how-our-products-work

Agreed...there is more a focus on the "management" side of things in Scouting, than in leadership. https://www.forbes.com/sites/terinaallen/2018/10/09/what-is-the-difference-between-management-and-leadership/?sh=6fe40a4774d6

- We only mandate that they camp by patrols, and select their own buddies. (Many summer camps do not set up by patrol sites.) If there is an "odd-man out", that Scout may tent with another "odd-man out", if the two-year rule does not prohibit. There are some Scouts who prefer to tent alone. If there are conflicts, the Patrol Leader (PL) works it out. If PL cannot resolve, take it to Senior PL. When I am the SM or acting SM in camp, I only ask that they tell me how they resolved any issues, for the sole purpose of making sure that a Scout is not being ostracized or bullied in some way. Switching mid-week can work to great effect in these cases. - Adults should be as far away from the Scouts as practical. Usually in the farthest Patrol Site, and all together. Make sure the Scouts know where the SM tent is. I bring chem lights for PL's, SPL, and myself, and we hang them outside our tents each night, so they can find us easily. Everything looks different in the dark - Adults (and especially parents) must stay out of Scouts' tents, except for a health and safety reasons, and an inspection by the SPL w/SM for daily campsite inspection competition. This is the case where we have the most difficulty with new parents who accompany us to camp. Best advice for them, "If you don't think your Scout can make it through a week of summer camp without you, please seek out another long-term camping experience." Most of the time, the issue is with the parents, not with the Scout. That is, the parent cannot make through a week without the Scout - A pre-camp visit with the SPL is awesome, if you can swing it. Nothing beats eyes on target on your future campsite to help with planning. This is, of course, often impractical. - Finally, here is an uncomfortable topic off of OP...pooping. After many years of Summer Camp, I have discovered that one of the key contributors to "homesickness" is anxiety about going to the bathroom. So, we call it "Number Two Tuesday." Camp starts on Sunday, so if a Scout has not gone #2 by the end of Tuesday, you WILL see problems. On Tuesday morning before breakfast, I discretely take each Scout (and Adult!!!) aside and ask them if the have gone #2 by now. I have a roster to help me keep track (we have 41 going to camp this year.) If they have not, help them figure out why. If they just haven't felt the need, the number one reason is dehydration. Even if they say they are well hydrated (have been going #1 frequently, and the color is light) then I still have them drink a lot of water. If by midday they haven't gone, I give them some coffee (with prior parents' permission.) If that doesn't work within about an hour, it's an OTC laxative or a trip to the health lodge, depending on your camp's rules on giving OTC meds. Hydration and/or coffee have always done the trick. Occasionally, it's an anxiety issue with rustic facilities (never gone in an outhouse before) or privacy. So most camps have a clean flush toilet somewhere...have them go there. You will be astounded by the number of kids who think they can hold it for the whole week. Seriously...

I have this discussion with Scouts when they are earning their Cyber Chip. Here is the gist: If what you are doing with your device would violate any part of the Scout Oath or Law, don't it. Now, Johnny, let's talk about some examples... 1. The SPL says bed time is 10 pm. I do a walk-around at 10:15 and see the blue glow of your device through your tent. What part of the Scout Oath or Law applies? 2. Your patrol mate is giving a talk on how to pack a backpack, and you are playing a game or watching a video on your phone. What part of the Scout Oath or Law applies? 3. You are texting another person and use foul language or call them a name. What part of the Scout Oath or Law applies? Please, for the love of God, do not come up with some laundry list of do's and don'ts with devices. You can measure EVERYTHING against the yardstick of the Scout Oath and Law. This is how we build character. This is the way. P.S. First incident is behavior correction/warning. Next is confiscation until end of event or outing, and a discussion with parents. Next is you don't get to come on the next outing, and we look at circumstances to determine if this affects your advancement. (Only reached this point once, with full support of Troop committee and understanding of Scout's parents.) Now the culture is in place...

Be careful with this. You must consult with your local council for their interpretation. Our council interprets this as a registered leader with that unit, having been approved by the CO/COR. I made this same inquiry to National for interpretation and was skewered, btw... Tread with care...

Vs none!...always need a third option.😎😎😎

In all of my years as a youth in OA, we did pretty much what we wanted. In hindsight, it seemed like the inmates running the asylum. When our local lodge conducted our last two elections, the youths representing the lodge gushed on and on about how cool it is that everyone brings computers and play stations so they can game all night at lodge fellowships. Parents certainly don't want to hear, nor necessarily have their Scouts participating in that.

Granted, but those aren't requirements up to First Class... service projects, yes, and all units should be providing program opportunity for those.

I have recommended that we never do a "First Year Program" at Scout Camp again...based on my last five years of observations at different summer camps in our region. Here are some things I have noted, in general... - Most "instructors" for the programs were first year staffers without the requisite skills to teach. I observed many of them demonstrating incorrect knots and lashings, incorrect safety precautions for Totin Chip (or outright skipping items like ax use and care, yet still "signing it off"), poor map and navigation skills, inability to identify local plants/trees (ID'ing animals is usually less of a problem, but still concerning, as many do not include insects/arachnids/mollusks/etc. in their scope), inadequate fire building, poor first aid skills, inadequate cooking/cleaning information, etc., etc. etc. We have had to spend a good deal of time "correcting" learning wrong information. "What does the Scout Handbook say??" - Many programs simply escort the Scouts around to various program areas to earn MBs anyway, to fill the time. Swimming, First Aid, Nature, a handicraft badge, etc. They can do that themselves, thanks - Poor/inaccurate recording of attendance and requirements accomplished. Usually giving the Scout credit for items when they weren't even in class. - Dividing up the Scouts to form ad hoc patrols, rather than maintaining the patrol integrity provided by the unit. If I give you 8 Scouts in the first year program, why don't you just keep them together in the patrol already formed with an identity, emblem, yell, etc.??? Answer: because this is part of our program schedule. If they already have those things done, we don't have anything else for them to do during that block if instruction. Me: 😈 (I think this also contributes somewhat to homesickness issues, as they are not with the buddies they came to camp with.) - Feedback from 95% of the participants is negative...they did not have fun in those programs - The trend to be always "busy doing something" Scouts need some time to go for hike, read a book, sit in a hammock, skip rocks in the creek, fish, etc... When they do the MB program, we encourage them to take an hour or two off every day to do "nothing". Every bit of research I have read says youth need unstructured time for development. Our PLC, all of whom were in those programs, now encourage our new Scouts to not go into those programs. Our adult leaders, many of them parents of Scouts who went through those programs, discourage parents from steering their new Scout to those programs also. It is rare that a Scout finishes First Class in a year, because they have to take the initiative on their own advancement, particularly with the fitness activity tracking pieces. Most 11 year olds don't care about some of those things. We provide OPPORTUNITY to advance to First Class. We do not spoon feed them, nor create paper Scouts.

Oooohhh, just looked at CalTopo...very nice. I might be switching

Google Earth with USGS topo data overlay. https://www.earthpoint.us/topomap.aspx You can toggle back and forth and get an exact satellite image of the area as well...plotting waypoints and treks is easy...gives you exact distances and elevation profiles on tracks and trails plotted. In Google Earth, you can also go back in time on the satellite shots for some excellent older satellite photos, shot at various times through the year, to make out features better. I also use a UTM grid overlay for those badges needing UTM discussions. https://www.earthpoint.us/Grids.aspx Free except for the cost of printing. Map data is a bit dated, but I have used this for years with great results. All lines are True or Grid North, so Scouts have to know the local variation (declination). https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/declination.shtml Coupled with a locally produced Forest Service, NPS, State Park (etc.) trail map, and you have a very thrifty navigation solution for Scouts. Enjoy!