InquisitiveScouter

If you wanna get away from cookies, this is a good place to do it 😜 As long as you stay away from popcorn 😛

SA = Sturmabteilung Wait till that one hits... Those who cannot remember the past... https://www.britannica.com/topic/SA-Nazi-organization smh

https://m.email.scouting.org/rest/head/mirrorPage/@ioWh-yEhFvF8L2A1kdKKSgVPNuz-_mvo6HpmpCzhyhs3z5ZNbYL1mtzBJBC3ZntkMBuT3abs4KF_BG9qmx7Bxyhnzgmyldo5H4CtUMeCuxc5vGFA.html

And the barrage continues: https://m.email.scouting.org/rest/head/mirrorPage/@JAZoPn36nBGBwnSUwO9VYxp-uHhpwWPo3y6pE3GABf3-FGCOpsM-PFMe2BwqlMkxmXgNjOeyH0nzZ-YXNBXB1D9e_GIOmayLB-o7V-Xm_-tVOCZ7.html

Hey, got any official pronouncements for this pilot?

https://m.email.scouting.org/rest/head/mirrorPage/@JAZoPn36nBGBwnSUwO9VY6VgCN2Wl28EE7uPz5nsncSawHDh8yNO6LsXeesTuHbFn6mfjMbcKsZLvm8HhvAs7ybQwnt71C3wgYjdxrz2PNY4hBPH.html Imagine all the resources of staff time, effort, money, communication, etc. that went into this... and now imagine all the money and time that will go into changing tens of thousands of instances of the "old brand" across the country. Shaking my head... Nero fiddled while Rome burned Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic or your metaphor of choice...

Yes, see the Inspection Sheet... And, when you point it out, Be Prepared to learn about a cognitive bias we humans have: https://online.wharton.upenn.edu/blog/status-quo-bias/ After you let them know, and show the evidence, please report back, and let us know if the culture of your unit is one of following the Scout Law (A Scout is Obedient), or one of defiance

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Sa ??? Salvation Army??

Rebranding notice splashing on National's webpages:

The Adventure Plan is an online planning tool to help units reach the pinnacle of Scouting: a unit planned and executed high adventure trek. https://tap.scouting.org/ Strangely, this is now password protected. (You cannot make this stuff up... check it out...) Anyone have a contact at National, either Program, IT, or other, who can help us?

No. Undershirts are not required. Want an official source for this? The uniform inspection sheet... https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/510-784(23)-Scouts-Uniform-Inspection-Sheet.pdf Did you know that "In any case, the top button of the collar should be unbuttoned."?? I see this one a lot...

My sources say talks are ongoing... Basically, each Board involved must vote to agree to a merger. Financially unsound councils won't have much choice, and will face pressure from National. My guess is that National's stick is denial of a charter to a council. Financially strong councils kind of call their own shots. How is your council doing? Ours is not doing well... Here is an historical example: https://web.archive.org/web/20131213125856/http://www.cnjcscouting.org/index.php/download_file/view/801/1/

Actually @SSScout, it is not communicated well, but BSA requires all drivers check their vehicles prior to departure: https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-696(21)-SAFE-Transportation-Checklist-FPO3-5172021.pdf "Motor vehicles used to transport Scouts must complete Pre-Trip Transportation Inspection before travel for each driver and vehicle. This includes correcting all deficiencies." btw, @RichardB, "Motor vehicles" don't complete checklists... people do. Would recommend re-wording this statement on the form.

@RichardB, thanks! IMO, we are in a good place with the driver policies we have now. No need to revisit "convoy" or "caravan." Are you still seeing a trend of convoying being a causal/contributing factor in vehicle incidents? I do have some recommendations on improving the Transportation checklist. How do we plug into the apparatus to suggest those changes? For example, "Windshield Wipers" are not on the checklist, and darn well should be 😜 Several other things should be considered for inclusion, particularly for trailers... happy to provide input. Also, do you have insight into BSA incident rates while towing a trailer? https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-696(21)-SAFE-Transportation-Checklist-FPO3-5172021.pdf

Haven't heard this one... but am getting intel on potential council mergers. Of course, that scuttlebutt has been flying around for years... As for the name change, looks like someone wants to "leave a legacy"... smh

And, for the history buffs, see page 49 in the attachment, right side, #10. 2007 Printing, BSAGuideToSafeScouting.pdf

Traveling in convoys or caravanning used to be specifically prohibited. Not anymore, insofar as I can see, either. The practice itself is not bad. It's that, as pointed out above, drivers have a penchant for breaking laws and creating unsafe conditions while "trying to keep up." The focus is now on distracted driving, which is a leading cause of accidents. And the admonition to obey all traffic laws... The drive to and from any Scouting event is the highest risk / most dangerous part of the event. Here are a few resources for reference: Guide to Safe Scouting - Transportation Section : https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss11/ SAFE Transportation Checklist and Pre-Trip Inspection: https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/680-696(21)-SAFE-Transportation-Checklist-FPO3-5172021.pdf Risk Zone Training: http://www.scouting.org/filestore/healthsafety/pdf/632-006_wb.pdf BSA Drive Safely On Line Training, SCO_805, found in my.scouting Training... not required One of the hardest things any of us will ever do is take a drive and obey EVERY traffic law perfectly. Give it a real try sometime, observe your driving practices, and evaluate yourself honestly... 😜

How is it 3x the work for her?? LOL And how will the Scouts learn, if not by doing? I know... preaching to the choir 😜

That would be three separate menus/shopping/cooking/cleanup in our unit, so three patrols. 3 olders is enough for a "patrol."

IMO, you are doing great!! The discouragement of PM's means between adults and youth...

No, it isn't. You have no idea who @fred8033 is. That account could be a Scouter, or it could be someone posing as a Scouter, or it could (these days) be a large language model chatbot posting. Or it could be one of my alter egos trolling you, and complete fiction.

Completely agree, see my immediately previous post.

Not quite... For example, a CO and Unit Committee can choose not to allow someone who is openly gay (or a sex-changer) be a leader or youth in their unit. In the case of the adult, if their lifestyle is not in line with the views and morals of the CO, then they have every right to exclude that person from their unit. But, not from Scouting... In the case of the youth, issues of sexuality should never be on the menu... but if they youth and or family push that agenda, then the unit has every right to exclude them as incompatible with their aims for their unit. But, they cannot exclude the youth from Scouting...

Absolutely, we tolerate those with those "views". What we do not tolerate is those who "act" against others in accordance with those views. What you are advocating is akin to being the "Thought Police." Not knowing the other specifics of the OP (that is, having only one version of the events), my pronouncement was simply that it was wrong of the person to use an open forum to vent his misgivings about membership policies. And, it was also a failure by the discussion moderators there to not steer that person into other territory. Zoom hosts can mute or boot anyone from a session. They should feel free to use that power, but judiciously. Where did that enter the equation in this thread?? I scanned the other pages and did not see anything about someone making threats??

SIgn me up!