mrjohns2

Not true. To do any fundraising, a unit needs an approved fundraising application. That is part of “following the national rules”. That application MUST be signed by the local council. Again, if you want to follow the rules. No application is needed for council fundraising.

HAD. Well, Bay-Lakes has 4 council camps still, but within the area, I bet if we went back about 8 years, there would be 8+ shuttered camps. One from Bay-Lakes (Twin Lakes). Without doing research, at least 2 others have been shuttered in the area - Napawon, Shin-Go-Beek and CFL are near.

Your assessment as a whole is correct, but your specific example is not a national issue. It is either council, or state, driven. The wet signature and double COR approval isn’t required by national.

This is so very true. Your numbers are spot on and it was nearly impossible with a pack of 49 cubs. With at least having a treasurer and advancement coordinator, it is easily 20.

This has been our Pack's issue. Many adults want to help the day of the event, but no planning or strategy discussions before the event.

This is true. As a roundtable commissioner, I can do so much better of a job with a few other roundtable Commissioners. I love how our DE brainstorms with the district commissioner and chair for new resources.

I like these. One thing I then do “back for the pros” is my list here. I’ve had pretty good DEs, so YMMV. For me, by doing these things, when I need their help/resources they have been there. 1. Listen to the DEs. 2. Fully support FOS so the DEs don’t have to push a rope on something that is important to them, but we don’t want theM to focus on it. 3. Really work your own issues at the unit level and only involve DEs when needed. Leverage the resources by not burdening them with items that don’t need to be handled by them. 4. Support your council camps, camporees, and other council/district activities to be “part of the team”. This makes things easier for the DEs. 5. Support their recruiting goals / recruiting activity as it helps their professional goals.

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I would be very sad if our unit didn’t wear one, but actually it is up to the PLC.

The presentation said that ONLY the AOL is intended to be prep for Scouts (6 months for AOL) vs. previously all of Webelos (18 months Webelos and AOL) being prep.

Pretty poor for us. Our troop is down from 20 to 13. Our Pack peaked at ~73 last year and will peak only at 63 this year. The higher fees PLUS needing to pay for 1 year really put a damper on recruiting for us. A school that netted about 20+ in one night, yielded 0 in the one night. We had maybe 5 over about a week as people thought it over.

Alps tents through hikerdirect. Many many troops in our use the Taurus Outfitter models. Our troop uses 4 person ones. Full tarp to the ground, vestibules on both sides, not a ton of mesh (hotter in the summer, but true 4 season), ticker floor, tougher zippers, and very inexpensive. They have held up for 5 years for us and are like new camping each month. The boy troop have used them for 10+ and they are holding up well. Much better headspace than the A frame Timberlines we used as a kid. No "magic flute" to lose either. For adults, we use the 5 person. On the big side, but totally can stand up. The boy troop backpacks with the 4 person ones. They are heavy, but they already have them. I wasn't sure when I was first told about hiker direct, I was like "yeah, other websites have discounted tents". Hiker direct really is a charity type of move for Scouts.

True, but an adult would address the issue instead of banning everyone.

That is how we did it. Also, our dues mainly go to things like adult fees, so those don’t scale by the month.

Opps! Thanks for the correct.

We will have to see the requirements. Maybe, maybe, maybe they have 8, but the AOL ones are shorter?

No, you didn’t. In ‘86 it was the Scout badge. In ‘95 it became the Scout Rank. One was a joining badge and the other involves a lot more and is a rank. So, yes the badge was eliminated and replaced with a rank. In this case a joining badge of bobcat becomes an adventure. Times change.

This is a great idea.

We didn’t / we don’t. It became the Scout rank in 2015. Things change.

They might not have much info either.

It isn't eliminated. It is making it age appropriate.

There was a spreadsheet a few years back that showed sizes and the ranges (ABCD?).

That rumor wasn’t in the staff circles I love in. I’m with the older crowd that would like have money. It was “only $1M” if I recall, so not too surprising that someone could have at least come up with a mortgage. The council never much invested in the camp compared to my current council. Very different approach.

I’m not following your point. It was my old camp, so I’m decently familiar with what happened.

Not as much as all staff have to register as “camp staff employee” or something. This stops the “camp staff unit” concept from being necessary. Our council’s camp staff crew added away pretty quickly.