mrjohns2

I agree. I don't like Mr. or Mrs. First Name.

You summed it up quite nicely. At times, I use the Mrs./Mrs./Ms. so much, I even use it during committee meetings, but no one seems to mind. It is hard to "code switch" at times.

Since council camps (including, now camporees etc.) are audited and "permitted" by trained administrators, I assume they assume it is more rigorous in its execution. Sorry for the run on sentence. Often times, it seems as though units look the other way at certain safety things beyond YPT.

I know it has diamonds showing what changed, but it didn't seem to change much, did it? Does anyone have a tldr version? I glanced over it and it seemed the same.

Markup isn't the question, margin is. It doesn't matter if they have 300% markup if they are still losing money on the item.

It is funny, we often hear the most complaints about the pay at the top, and then a snicker of the pay at the bottom. We will have a broken professional core as long we pay entry level DEs such a tiny wage for someone with a 4 year degree.

It is interesting that some of these items, even if they seemed expensive, must not have been "self sustaining" meaning that they were selling these at a loss.

It will be great if they provide one large pdf guide. The Kindle edition was the same cost, and based on each year (not auto updated).

That is not at all what they said. No one is talking about withholding info, it just isn't a responsibility of the leader to cover each and ever award.

I agree. In all of my reading of handbooks, guides, and training, making scouts aware of all opportunities is not one of Scoutmaster responsibilities. There are so many different "areas" a Scout could get involved in, it isn't up to the SM to make all aware.

There are a number of Scouters who give me the stick eye with I reference something like this on my phone. With all of this moving electronically, we need to change to culture to not be so turned off by phones, tablets, laptops at meetings/campouts/outings. Also, I have the 2019 and 2020 Kindle editions of the requirements. 2021 is not out. The BSA is "committed" to moving these to electronic resources. They keep using that word. I don't think it means what they think it means.

We did ours much later than normal last year. I assume we will do the same. By doing it late, we were able to have it outside (we are in Wisconsin). We got premade subs from Subway. We had it at a place that had a bunch of spread out picnic tables for families and then moved to the fire bowl area. Families brought their own chairs so they could distance. We had very good mask compliance. We did the cross over at that time, but the Scouts had actually been with the troop for a month or 2.

That makes more sense. It seems that up until 1972 the commissioner color was blue instead of red.

Well, you could make a bolo or neckerchief slide out of the plaque. I like that they added the medal in your council. I read somewhere originally that it was connected to Cub Scouts and that is why the background is blue. It was then expanded to all district volunteers. That supposed history doesn't make much sense as the adult uniform for Cubs wasn't blue AFAIK.

Well, the Order of the Arrow Endowment Fund which was started at the end of 1978. The claim is that everything was basically co-mingled with no records of deposits and withdrawals.

I wish it was more of an "LL Bean" wool shirt and pants. Then it would look nice and do pretty well at camp. 😞 But as you point out, they are wool as in fine wool suit.

I assume you are talking about the poly wool pants? Boy Scout Men's Polyester Pants | Boy Scouts of America (scoutshop.org)

When I felt this, when I saw this... I knew why adults volunteered so many years. To see, from a distance, a patrol "get the job done" or to see them work out there differences or plan something... it was amazing. I feel like I have to use clichés, but this is the magic. No adults, just the Scouts, doing Scouting. Again, we are there for safety and to avoid large monetary loss. Other than that, it is theirs.

Yes. The wrong interpretation. SM and ASM are not to be advancement coordinators.

We already already constrained in a million different directions. The problem is almost "over defined" - meaning there is no solution that can meet all requirements. To impose additional hard limit requirements, when they are not there, is very frustrating. None of the third party campgrounds and facilities in our area have any ratios in their rules and regulations (I read them). School districts in our area don't impose their standards meeting in their facilities or other tangential groups.

I agree with this 100%. It really depends on the outing (location, activity, weather) and the Scouts (age, maturity, past issues, health, capability, leadership skills, etc.). One of my proudest moments on a campout was when I had gone on a hike with 6 of our Scouts. They were having a great time in this one area of an old camp. No one else was at the camp besides the 7 Scouts and 2 adults. I needed to get back to the campsite to change my socks or something. Now, I didn't have a buddy, but I was headed back to camp along a clear trail. I told the group "I'm headed back to camp. You saw how we got to this side of camp, let me know when lunch will be, and I'll at least see your cooks back in the campsite" They were shocked I would leave them alone. I made it clear that they should not go into the water and to not go anywhere without a buddy. They were thrilled that they would be trusted to be by themselves and get back to camp on their own. Shocked and trilled.

Where are you getting that from? 2 deep is not required “at all times”. You are reading extra rules into it. You are confusing no “one on one” at all times. You can be on a camp out and 10 Scouts and one adult go one way and 10 Scouts and another adult go another. Prudent? Maybe not. But again, don’t create extra rules.

This isn’t a case of “liberal view” of BSA policy. There is no direction on a ratio required. 30 would be a lot, but it isn’t against policy. It would be hard to get 30 Scouts somewhere without 5 or 6 or more drivers. So, it is only theoretical. But, it is mot against the policy. Maybe against practicality and good sense, but again, there is no required ratio for Troops.

I don't believe there are any YPT rules against this.

That is a lot. It makes the medal very impressive. We camp every month and go to summer camp. If a Scout did that, it would still take about 5 years. I know you can count Cub Scout nights (if I recall), and I assume things like OA and NYLT, but still, 4 years then? Wow.