mrjohns2

Other than summer camp, do they do unit type camping frequently through the year? My wife’s 4H was more very focused crafts - sewing, cooking, ceramics, flower, and arranging. Competition in those areas at local and state. Meetings only at adult homes other than competition at county buildings.

Wow! Oh no. I have not heard this sad direction. Can you point to some of the national literature on this? I guess they are allowed to vet the adults, but this seems to be wrong headed and crushing.

I assume you didn’t win it, but worked hard to achieve it! Thanks for reaching out. Is there some current effort to specifically “hurt” the boundary waters?

Because it didn’t involve a lot of camping and vulnerable situations that camping brings with it (showers, swimming, changing, sleeping, homesickness). These vulnerable / risky situations happen each month, month after month.

That is the word on the street in Discord. I keep mentioning that the Areas that OA Sections are based on are gone. As are the Regions - the OA has Region Chiefs. I keep getting told TBD and IF the OA adopts the new structure. I said they should use the new NSTs and divide them into sections. Case closed.

I totally agree. Over the last 2.5 years we canceled a Polar Bear where their would have been 2 adults and 2 Scouts. We decided the turnout was too low to justify the effort (4 days before). The other time we canceled due to not having the second registered adult. The old SM should shut their mouth on any such decisions. Their time has passed. They may also no longer be privy to the whole story. How rude of them to weigh in at all!

I have looked at 08, 09, 10, 12, 14, 15, 19, 20, and 21. None say own. I could not find 2013. I guess it could have been an outlier.

Now those troop longevity bars are a sign of potential liability. :-{

Currently, they are being promised protection (at least for charter year 2021):

Why don't you leave for a bit, do some googling, and see what you can find. Your need may not be the need of others.

Agreed. Give me an honest pie chart or something.

I assume this would be a joke. I have seen some bankruptcy org names 3 card montie. The new org is called something like Boy Scouts of America Reborn (BSAR). Then they rename the old BSA Old (BSAO). Then the rename the new org Boy Scouts of America. Then they get to have the new org have the old name.

How often do you meet in the school year?

? What sort of burner? Like a propane stove burner?

I did one for wood badge for my troop. For our inexperienced PLC a list with places, distances, and key activities that would be exhaustive of places to camp within 2 hours would make them more self sufficient and less at the whim of adult leader ideas of where is neat (even me). My ulterior motive was to turn around and give it to the lodge. The lodge was more or less “that’s nice, maybe we will get to it, do you want to be an advisor for it”.

Well, except the BSA doing alway with 2 levels of the structure and redefining what national means to councils and the focus of volunteers supporting that role. Maybe a better word is no changes to governance. The structure did change.

Funny you mention this. Each year, about 10 or so, 22’ish young adults from my work go on a ad box backpacking trip in northern Wisconsin. Different people, more or less, each year, but it is totally like a high adventure trip.

If this is true, it blows my mind. Our current commissioner does everything you see in the training / literature that a Unit commissioner is supposed to do. In addition to meeting with us, he HELPED (not hindered) with the charter, we have had an issue with popcorn money from council that he is working out, he helped us when we needed advice on an issue between a Scout and an ASM, and other things. We aren't very needy, but he is really part of our team of resources.

I can’t tell if you are being facetious or not. Our unit commissioner attends all Pack, Boy Troop, and girl troop meetings. He lets us know when he can’t. He also attends a normal unit meeting of each, each month or so. He does this for three COs. Each have 2 or 3 units. So, I’m the 3 years I have been on the troop committee, the commissioner is always there to help. He does a great great job of not “getting in the way”, but is there when needed.

I saw a run down of the NAM. I guess he was finally commissioned and is now, also, the CSE.

I agree. The merit badge focus is crazy. When I worked on Merit badges, 30 years ago, the concept of “merit badge worksheets/workbooks” didn’t exist, at least in my council. Kids have enough workbooks at school. Don’t make this school.

Only in the last 2 years did I even know that NAM existed. I was excited when it was streamed last year, that is, until I listened. Even then it was very plasticine and fake. This year, I could only take about 20 minutes of the membership growth meeting. It just doesn't seem real or sincere.

This argument has started to change my mind. I may be coming around to agree with you.

How was Scouting University used? They produced the online trainings there? I have also heard they did professional training there. What were the other uses? How long did it exist? Can someone explain what is being lost?

My theory on the theory of the $25. Since they prorate, and so many Cubs join in September and so many don’t re-up, they see that as a nearly full year registration foe only 4/12th’s of a year. It hurts everyone and makes the program more expensive, and sucks if you join in January, but that is my theory.