mrjohns2

One of my jobs as an engineer in an manufacture/ industrial plant is drive what you describe. We can drive productivity by studying the process, giving people the tools, systems, etc to literally do more with less. Don’t cut willy-nilly. Study the work process, determine what is needed, and find the needs with the staffing reduction. We do a 5 year pay out. Automate with the budget being about a 20% rate of return. This stops a lot of “pie in the sky” since we have a budget. It also stops “just lay off the people a d so more with less”. Do more, fewer people, but have great supporting systems. I’d love to take it on. Real world ideas - no paper forms allowed, Scoutbook that is integrated with all of the other systems, etc. I’d buy BlackPug and really integrate it. Boom! It would be paid for by the savings.

It looks like a council office and store. https://www.humboldtlistings.com/idx/1007-Wood-Street-Eureka-CA-95501-mls_259440/?SavedSearch=20140710193939388326000000&PropertyType=A&pg=1&OrderBy=-ModificationTimestamp&p=y&n=y

You make this statement with no proof. Some councils, like ours, are the merger of 7 councils. None of those records were digitalized 20 years ago when they merged. Who knows how well each of the old councils kept their records. Council offices changed many times. Do they have some or many enrollment records? Likely, all? No.

Wouldn't that be up to the claimant?

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Also, some skills and new knowledge, at least for me, takes time to percolate. A day in between helps me a lot.

I wonder if it is rural, or just the number of Scouts in the council.

Well, taking out a $500M loan seems to be the way they avoid Les the loss of the bases. LCs could do the same assuming someone would grant such loan and payments could be made. Taking on the loan for the HA bases to stay may or may not be a good gamble.

Our Pack's system is fairly simple. Charge the Scout for everything. Then, allow the Scout to apply their fundraising contribution to those charges. This then allows families that don't wish to participate in fundraising to opt out. It also allows families that have a greater need, time, or desire for their Scout to earn their way, to participate. On top of that, we offer a few camperships to close the gap when needed.

How does that work, though, for the insurance portion? That is where the real money will be.

I took a stab at really merging hierarchies. Our rangers do a great job of supporting units at camp, but I guess they are staff vs. line. I see the program director out at enough council events to include him in line. I don't get what all of the office admin people do since we only have 1 registrar who sometimes gets help from 1 other admin. 1 SE Line 11 9 DE/Field Directors 1 Director of Field Service 1 Program Director Staff 14 3 Rangers 1 Marketing Specialist 2 Development Director 5 Office Admin 1 Director of Support Services 2 Accounting

Welcome! Your local Scout Council, District, etc. could always use volunteers! I made the mistake of not jumping back in after college, but before kids. With this being the best experience of your life, you could help others do the same! (assuming you are not already)

I bet you were at CFL? I was on staff ‘92-‘95. It is so very hard to see it go and for so little. My current council camp is Bear Paw. We have only done the dinning hall. The director is great. He was just hired as a DE, so chances are he will be the director for many years ahead. It is a good camp. My heart will always be at CFL, but my girls will know Bear Paw as their camp. my dad’s ashes will stay at CFL after the sale. So, it will always be a sacred space for me no matter what it becomes. Through coming to terms with the loss of CFL, I have learned a camp is mostly the program and rhe staff. The land may just be a memory.

This is helpful. As I have been changing my mind on lawyer fees, partly it is due to hearing these types of details. All of the staff and professionals come out of those fees. It isn’t one person having to get paid. It is many that SOMEONE is paying upfront.

For a long time I was very much mad at the lawyers. I don’t know why, but through the discussion I am ambivalent towards them. The victims hired them, understand their fees, and are ok with it. I am now ok with it too. Go back and see some my old posts, I have changed my opinion.

I agree. I don't think they would ever go for it.

This was one of the thought processes when the Vietnam Wall was built. List the dead, but provide a place for the living to visit. It took many 20-30 years to visit due to the hurt. I agree it shouldn't just be for BSA, but in the larger community. I know of no other type of monument. The memorial could be to the loss.

I never even thought about CO insurance being a worthwhile target. I keep thinking our CO, the PTO. But most of the religious institutions would have some decently deep pockets as well.

As long as your tent mate is in your patrol, for sure. That was one of the best things about troop camping growing up. The SPL decides where the different patrols setup.

Our lodge has 1500 members that come from many troops, maybe 300+ troops.

We are in Wisconsin and we were told a couple of months back that all four of our camps that have supper camp programs will likely survive. I thought that was a bold statement.

What is the point? Not everything in Scouts revolves around the unit. Not a unit activity, not the responsibility of the unit.

It isn’t. The OA has adults that provide the 2 deep leadership.

I’ll tell you this - the troop leader handbook, wood badge, IOLS, BALOO, online trainings galore, and round table haven’t thought me much. I got back in 2.5 years ago with my girls. I draw some of the most upon my experience on camp staff nearly 30 years ago and my troop growing up nearly 35 years ago. Ask Andy is pretty darn good too.

I read a blog about management and becoming a better manager. She does a great job with advice as she almost always provides advice and then often a script. She said she includes words to say as it is a hard jump for many from advice and then “how do I DO that”.