mrjohns2

That might be how they want it, but that isn’t ok.

I hope you are not having the scout do everything twice? That would not be good.

I learned that from a retired Command Sargent Major. I was telling him about how one year at camp an Air Force reservist folded it in squares. He said "meh, as long as it was done with respect, it would have been ok." I was shocked!

Yes, and at Roundtable, we try to include something similar related to the topics covered.

No, they don't. You are mistaken. The key 3 delegate position is to delegate, software wise, key 3 access. A member of the key does not get automatically, nor needs, the key 3 delegate role.

Well, it is a belt loop vs a patch. Is it that big of a deal?

You can't charge $3.50 for those beads!

Thank you for the history lesson. I didn't believe you, so I looked it up. You were right. This is from the USScouts.org neat page on the changes over the years. From 1972-1979 Camping was not required. 7 years. A whole Scout generation. The strike outs didn't copy and paste. The reds are removal and greens additions. I earned my eagle in 1990 and Cooking wasn't required, but Safety was. 1967: Camping, Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Conservation of Natural Resources, Cooking, First Aid, Lifesaving, Nature, Personal Fitness, Safety, Soil and Water Conservation, Swimming.[11] 1972: Camping, Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Citizenship in the World, Communications, Conservation of Natural Resources, Cooking, Environmental Science, Emergency Preparedness OR Lifesaving, First Aid, Lifesaving, Nature, Personal Fitness, Personal Fitness OR Swimming OR Sports, Personal Management, Safety,.Swimming.[10] 1979: Camping, Citizenship in the Community, Citizenship in the Nation, Citizenship in the World, Communications, Emergency Preparedness OR Lifesaving, Environmental Science, First Aid, Personal Fitness OR Swimming OR Sports, Personal Management, Safety.[11] History of Eagle Scout Required Merit Badges (usscouts.org)

This is 100% the staffing choices of your council. I can speak to our district’s posting since I could see it in commissioner’s tools. Our charters were submitted like many in early December. Our registrars hit them hard between Christmas and new years. Many were pre-posted. We had like 35 posted on January 3rd. Then another 15 by January 10th. The other 15 were slow since those units didn’t have their act together. I don’t know how long the CBC takes. If you send your adult app (photos) at night, the registrar will process it first thing the next morning. They hit the system late in the day and are about 90% in the system overnight. By the following day the show up in all systems.

They get a cut of the ones that they coordinate.

What I am saying is they can forbid any fundraising they choose to. If they don’t want to approve any other fundraising besides popcorn for 6 months, they can do that.

Not true. To do any fundraising, a unit needs an approved fundraising application. That is part of “following the national rules”. That application MUST be signed by the local council. Again, if you want to follow the rules. No application is needed for council fundraising.

HAD. Well, Bay-Lakes has 4 council camps still, but within the area, I bet if we went back about 8 years, there would be 8+ shuttered camps. One from Bay-Lakes (Twin Lakes). Without doing research, at least 2 others have been shuttered in the area - Napawon, Shin-Go-Beek and CFL are near.

Your assessment as a whole is correct, but your specific example is not a national issue. It is either council, or state, driven. The wet signature and double COR approval isn’t required by national.

This is so very true. Your numbers are spot on and it was nearly impossible with a pack of 49 cubs. With at least having a treasurer and advancement coordinator, it is easily 20.

This has been our Pack's issue. Many adults want to help the day of the event, but no planning or strategy discussions before the event.

This is true. As a roundtable commissioner, I can do so much better of a job with a few other roundtable Commissioners. I love how our DE brainstorms with the district commissioner and chair for new resources.

I like these. One thing I then do “back for the pros” is my list here. I’ve had pretty good DEs, so YMMV. For me, by doing these things, when I need their help/resources they have been there. 1. Listen to the DEs. 2. Fully support FOS so the DEs don’t have to push a rope on something that is important to them, but we don’t want theM to focus on it. 3. Really work your own issues at the unit level and only involve DEs when needed. Leverage the resources by not burdening them with items that don’t need to be handled by them. 4. Support your council camps, camporees, and other council/district activities to be “part of the team”. This makes things easier for the DEs. 5. Support their recruiting goals / recruiting activity as it helps their professional goals.

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I would be very sad if our unit didn’t wear one, but actually it is up to the PLC.

The presentation said that ONLY the AOL is intended to be prep for Scouts (6 months for AOL) vs. previously all of Webelos (18 months Webelos and AOL) being prep.

Pretty poor for us. Our troop is down from 20 to 13. Our Pack peaked at ~73 last year and will peak only at 63 this year. The higher fees PLUS needing to pay for 1 year really put a damper on recruiting for us. A school that netted about 20+ in one night, yielded 0 in the one night. We had maybe 5 over about a week as people thought it over.

Alps tents through hikerdirect. Many many troops in our use the Taurus Outfitter models. Our troop uses 4 person ones. Full tarp to the ground, vestibules on both sides, not a ton of mesh (hotter in the summer, but true 4 season), ticker floor, tougher zippers, and very inexpensive. They have held up for 5 years for us and are like new camping each month. The boy troop have used them for 10+ and they are holding up well. Much better headspace than the A frame Timberlines we used as a kid. No "magic flute" to lose either. For adults, we use the 5 person. On the big side, but totally can stand up. The boy troop backpacks with the 4 person ones. They are heavy, but they already have them. I wasn't sure when I was first told about hiker direct, I was like "yeah, other websites have discounted tents". Hiker direct really is a charity type of move for Scouts.

True, but an adult would address the issue instead of banning everyone.

That is how we did it. Also, our dues mainly go to things like adult fees, so those don’t scale by the month.