Millie

Thank you all. She has not returned to a meeting since that incident. I do not expect that she will. At the end of January, her Scout's membership will expire when we recharter. She has made no effort to pay renewal fees for her Scout. The deadline for paying renewal fees is January 4. SSScout, the father has not been a part of the Scout's life for several years. The mother and father are divorced and seriously estranged.

Yes, everything is in Scoutbook and Advancement Sync was activated just a few days ago for BSA. Complete Cub Record Bobcat forward.

NJ, Guilty as charged! However, at the time that I made my original post, her "law related" reason for declining to register as a leader (somehow) seemed less significant. I am not sure why... especially in light of your "passing bad checks" comment relating to her Treasurer claims... Goodness. Well, I continue to sit her patiently - still waiting for that promised call from Council. They did have quite the bundle of correspondence to read. It's time to cut the cord with Problem Mom and move on to the more important task of providing a quality program for our Scouts.

I'm a proud mom of three, two boys and a girl. I have a Boy Scout, an Explorer and a Ballerina. I still work with our previous Pack, as Committee Chair. So in all of that, my time is full. I enjoy every moment with my family and with Scouting. I just joined today - jumped right in and asked my question. I joined at the advice of an old friend and retired Scouter. He recommended that I come here for advice and he was on target! This looks like a great forum with a lot of experienced Scouters willing to help with advice and encouragement. Thanks for letting me be a part of this group!

It is sad for this young man, but we have all just reached the end of our patience in dealing with her drama. Thank you Colonel!

I wish there were a way to keep her son, we've pondered this, but I don't see it being a possibility. She rarely lets him very far out of her sight. In addition to her other endearing personality traits, she is also a helicopter parent. All of our Dens meet on the same night/time due to the fact that we have so many families with multiple scouts in our unit. So, it just works best for us that way. To change her Den, she'd have to change the entire Pack meeting date/time/location. Not likely to happen. That major red flag has been up for the better part of two years since her disclosure. She's never alone with any other member (youth or adult). Exactly!

Spot on Stosh! I feel badly for her son, but as you said, in the interest of the boys, the game has got to change.

I suspected something like that.

Ha! Well, we did not exclude her from registering as a leader. She declined to do so because she stated that she would not pass a background check due to a "law related" issue.

She did not provide details but alluded to something "law related" in her background. I

Yes, it is the CO's decision from all that I've read and heard. However, as a courtesy, I made them (Council) aware of the situation and sought their advise to ensure that our Pack stays within guidelines and policies of BSA. Without a doubt, if it comes down to removing/banning her, her drama will substantially increase.

When the mother is removed/banned, she will likely have no alternative but to remove her son. She has no spouse or other family in the area that can bring him to the meetings. She has never held any sort of registered leader position. We have in the past invited her to be on the Committee so that she would have more than a voice, she'd actually have a vote, however, by her own admission, she could not pass a background check and will not register. She just picks apart the Bylaws and Code of Conduct. Both of which were reviewed and approved by our Council. They are not anything beyond regular BSA rules, regulations and guidelines for a Pack. Her gripe with our location is that she wants us to meet at her Church (over 20 miles away from our current location and the core of our Pack population). Our meeting night interferes with her son's karate lessons. Her son is not being bullied at all. He is quiet, reserved, but seems to be well liked. No twisting of rank requirements. Hypothetically speaking, if she were to come to this board, it would depend on her mood for the day as to what her account of the situation would be. It could be anything from our Pack is exemplary, to we are spawns of Satan. She has been offered the opportunity to transfer to another Pack which may be better suited for her, but she refuses. Our Executive Officer, the COR, Committee Chair (myself), Den Leader, current Treasurer, past Treasurer, Cubmaster, Assistant CM and many others have spoken to her. We have listened, tried to help, expressed concerns, etc. Some days she is gracious and apologizes for her behavior - but then the next meeting, she'll be back to stirring the proverbial pot. When I tell you that she has been given ample opportunity to correct her behavior, that is no exaggeration. This has literally been a ping pong match for three years.

We do have those emails and texts. They have been turned in to Council. And yes, they were concerned about her misrepresentation. They are discussing and I am waiting on a call back with their advice / recommendation.

She is not, nor has she ever been a registered leader. Unfortunately, she has stepped way beyond being a general pain in the neck. No one in our Pack has a problem with her (or any other person's) opinion whether favorable or not. She is welcome to voice her opinion. And everyone's voice is heard and considered. Her general stance is we should do everything her way or no way. After three years, this has just worn thin. She has gone far beyond a whiny or grumpy parent.

Hi, Have contacted my DE, and the Regional Director for advise. I have provided them with all of the documentation (emails, texts, etc). At first blush, they are in agreement Problem Mom needs to move on. Waiting for further response.