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The matter is not exactly settled just because the IH writes a letter to council. The ex-Scouter will retain his permissions in my.scouting.org until well after the registrar removes him from the roster. I have seen it take as long as 45 days after the registrar removed somebody from the unit roster for them to actually be removed in my.scouting.oeg. Those permissions, of course, depend on their position with the unit. I am not sure about scoutbook permissions. Secondly, because of how BSA manages unit rosters, that person will still be listed on the roster at recharter time next year. Just cross them out at that time.
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Are chartered orgs liable for abuse cases that took place in their unit? They appointed the leaders and sponsored the unit. This makes me nervous as I am the COR for three units.
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Anybody know if chartered orgs are being named in lawsuits as well? I would imagine so but do not know.
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@Protoclete are you the District Chair? If so, first things first, you need to have a chat with your council's second in command. Not the SE because they will point you to the number 2. You are looking for somebody with a title like "Director of Field Services." Apologies to @carebear3895, but do not even bother with a District Exec because this is way above their paygrade and if they have not been in their position for long they will not even understand what you are talking about. To answer your overarching question, No, you as a volunteer cannot enter information. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly to your questions, the data you have questions about comes from ScoutNET, the system used by BSA. That is what populates the JTE dials. To your question about who, exactly, is on your district committee: do you have a copy of the district roster? Not one you or another volunteer created, but one actually generated by your council's registrar. That will show you who is physically registered as a district committee member. When you write: it sounds as If what you see in my.scouting.org does not mirror what is in ScoutNET. If so, that is even more reason to speak with your Director of Field Services. Hope this all helps. edited to add: By the way, it is common for ScoutNET and my.scouting.org to be out of sync...and the Council Registrar will need to work on that to reconcile the two.
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Our council had a string of DEs quit because they didn't want to camp at district camporees and such. Council no longer requires DEs to camp at their district events. They may show up for a couple hours on a Saturday but that's it.
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Same story here, with one noticeable difference. No matter when a DE quits, our council will leave the role vacant for the rest of that calendar year so they can use the funds budgeted for that person's salary elsewhere and continue to meet yearend financial numbers without going over budget. The problem is that when a DE quits in March, for example, a district wont have a DE until next January.
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The wide-mouth Nalgene or Gatorade bottle is called a “Scoutmaster’s Friend.” Gatorade bottles are good because you can throw them away when the trip is over. If you plan to reuse the bottle, make sure it is somehow marked so it is never confused with a water bottle. I use an older white poly Nalgene. i have been on winter campouts where the contents of that bottle froze overnight. Oh, and another tip: if you have an old, ripped closed-cell sleeping pad, you can cut it into strips, and tape the strips around water bottles and propane bottles to keep the contents warm. Other scraps also make a good kneeling pad when the ground is cold, and or wet.
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Discouraged: A Very Poor Call Out Ceremony
an_old_DC replied to Eagle94-A1's topic in Order of the Arrow
IIRC, back in my time as a youth, only one Scout was eligible from each troop each year. Failure was a distinct possibility--usually from breaking a vow of silence three times...often as a result of being tricked by a Principal or adult such as a Chapter Advisor or Lodge Advisor (summer camp director) who knew the candidate. -
Very similar experience for me except we often had Leadership Corps outings which were usually an all day canoe trip, 10 or 20 mile hike somewhere, a one-off fundraiser so we could then pay for some other outing of some kind, etc. Our long-time SM was a Marine Corps vet and an Eagle Scout, and our chief ASM was a long-time Scouter who had been on WB staff a couple times. They knew woodcraft and Scout-skills forwards and backwards. Scouting has changed a lot since then and I often wonder if they would have put up with the bureaucracy of Scouting today. They probably would have while their sons were active but I doubt they would have continued another 10+ years. I would pay a lot of money to see the withering look either would have given a helicopter/bulldozer parent of today who tried to campaign for their son
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@logistician24 you are already in over your head or you would not be asking faceless strangers on a web forum for advice, right? At the end of the day, this is a unit issue —and will be a unit decision—however you obviously need some guidance. If you don’t know your unit Commissioner, contact your district commissioner. If you don’t know them, contact your Council Commissioner. One of them most likely has been through this before and can offer guidance. (I have been through similar situations as District Commissioner). Anyway, you, this Commissioner, the SM and absolutely the COR need to meet. Leave parents out of this. If you do contact your District Executive (paid professional), they will refer you to a Commissioner. That person can update the DE and possibly Scout Executive after they meet with the unit. Finally, as others pointed out, the SM may have input but the final decision is yours—working in lockstep with the COR
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Interesting observation - rank advancement
an_old_DC replied to Jameson76's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Sydney is trying to make this all about her...as opposed to helping all girls. Check out both her twitter and change.org petition. Make no mistake: she wants to be the first girl Eagle Scout and she wants it now. As her dad often says, paraphrased, being an Eagle Scout opens lots of doors so you can get into better colleges and get a good job -
Been there too. After two trips about the distance you mention to the dining hall/camp HQ through pouring rain, thunder and lightning with 45 Scouts and a couple of AsMs, it was about 1:30 am. The camp director called all of the SMs together and said the storm cells were moving so fast and it was taking so long for all of the troops to reach shelter that trying to reach shelter was too risky. He told us that next time we heard the lightning siren we were to stay in our campsites and shelter in place....at least that way everybody wouldn’t be bunched up on the trail
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What can SM do for son's advancement?
an_old_DC replied to CarlosD's topic in Open Discussion - Program
Why would you propose adding something to troop bylaws that is in direct contradiction to the Guide to Advancement? -
What can SM do for son's advancement?
an_old_DC replied to CarlosD's topic in Open Discussion - Program
When I was Scoutmaster I signed off on rank requirements and SM conferences for all three of my sons. Whenever somebody questioned whether I should do that or not, I said "find me somebody in our troop who knows more about Scouting, the patrol method and Scout skills than I do and I will be happy to have my sons meet with them." There wasn't anybody. My older son told me one of his friends once said that he is lucky to have his dad be the SM because its easy. My son replied "Yeah, well you don't have a SM conference in the car after every meeting or campout asking how things went, what went well, and how things that went bad could be fixed." All three sons also grew up with me taking them in the backyard to start a fire with a magnifying glass, "helping" me fix a cut rope by whipping or fusing the end, etc. That said, the SM before me usually had his son meet with me and wouldn't sign his son's handbook. He was new to Scouting though and also realized his limitations. -
Interesting observation - rank advancement
an_old_DC replied to Jameson76's topic in Open Discussion - Program
You are forgetting the part about how she did not have to travel to Canada to do "Scout stuff." That was all happening while she was an unofficial part of a Manhattan troop with leaders who encouraged her participation. That Manhattan troop is where she claimed to have been PL, done service projects, unofficially earned MBs and rank., etc.