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No it means National has no power over councils. 🤨

Did I miss a policy change? My understanding is that councils cannot add a council fee greater than the BSA registration fee currently $75.

@AwakeEnergyScouter Where was/is your scouting experience where you had mixed gender troops? I'm sure RichardB could explain the legal reasons the BSA chose to have gender separate troops as the author of the Guide to Safe Scouting This bankruptcy the BSA has gone through has required many YP changes for summer camping and just recently the change that all leaders must be in a paid BSA position.

@Jameson76 about 1/3 of councils have less than 1500 scouts, many less than 1000. Not sure how they survive to operate today.

Hence the BS FOS calculation of we need $100 to support one scout (some places it's twice that). If the BSA recruited 196K cubs last year then where did they go in 3 months? Not to get myself in trouble but I notice that the overwhelming majority of the Eagle girls I see pictures of have full MB sashes. In my 20 years of our troop I can only remember one boy who even had a sash 3/4 full as they were busy running their troop and going camping etc. Always makes me wonder how integrated they were in troop operations. Okay I'll shut up.

The overall numbers are interesting but a 23% drop in 3 months is concerning. Peeling back the numbers would tell a story: How many new scouts joined Packs at recharter? What is the breakdown by category? Is the number of AOL scouts dropping which is bad news for the troops in 2024? How many AOL scouts crossed over and are in the Troop's number? How many scouts aged out of SBSA? How many aged out of Crews? How many of these are Scout reach or whatever they are called? How many units dropped as that number is almost as significant as the youth number?

A number of councils have instituted an additional fee per youth not to exceed the national registration amount. This is to guarantee they will get what they could not convince parents to do FOS. Councils wonder why their FOS is basically non existent from units. DUH. The parents view the extra fee as FOS of course. It is sad to watch FOS chairman beg for units to do presentations.

A bit of history...the current EP workbook was borne out of reviewers jerking scouts around because they didn't have enough detail. Remember it was just a blank sheet of paper. Scouts had up to 8 reviews before approval and some just gave up. BSA Advancement said enough of this stupidity and we (and I helped) wrote the GTA and EP documents. Are there still boneheads who jerk scouts around - absolutely unfortunately. So...The Proposal-Final Plan (now Project plan)- Project report was started to give the scout more structure on what they needed to consider as this is the first time they have ever had to take on something like this. Is this a perfect document? Not sure what project detail in the proposal section is too much What are you going to do Why does this help the beneficiary How many helpers do you guess you need Broad idea of the stuff you need to pull this off Do you need to ask for any permissions outside the sponsor Ballpark cost What are the next steps How do you get the stuff and people to your worksite Safety Work on your Project plan The Project plan basically takes the above categories and puts some meat to them. For example I need wood to make a picnic table (Proposal) I need X number of boards (Project Plan), I need 10 helpers (Proposal) to I need 2 BSA adults, an adult to cut the boards and a diagram on the steps. The Project plan also has a Work Process section which is basically how do you envision the workday will go. Most of the sponsors I know want to see this part to make sure the scout is meeting their expectations and get off the rails. I'll suggest that a scout needs to fill out the majority (if not all) of this section or his picnic table will look like I made it. The Project report is just what it says and usually can be completed the night after all the work is done.

@InquisitiveScouter I forgot my 😉 emoji on my first statement.

Cub Camping is one night because of the huge file national has on how many injuries there are on the 2nd night. The issue here is how many council sponsored camping events do councils actually do and provide resources for so 2 nights can be had? Let's all not laugh too hard. My council friend says his council camp won't even book one night events. JMHO.

Most MBs can be found like you did for Welding If your talking about MBs that you buy equipment for after the badge then Archery, Rifle Shotgun - if you buy your own equipment Backpacking - lots of $ more equipment Cycling - fancy bikes Dog Care -Woof Fishing/Fly Fishing - Walk into Bass Pro Golf Horsemanship Kayaking/Canoeing/Rowing/Motorboating/Small Boat Sailing Water Sports/Snow Sports/Whitewater Scuba But remember scouting is cheaper than any other youth group. 😁

Sorry No videos. That's what I have. Thanks

PM me. I might have the what you are looking for Instructional Overview (September 2020) Online & Virtual Introduction to Leadership Skills for Troops

Try this link: May need to copy/paste into your browser. file:///E:/BSA%20Training/ILST_IntroSyllabus_9_11.pdf

@MattR"As others have said, what's that much different between one night and two?" One? 😂 Same : Why can't MBCs go camping with a troop and need to be a paying volunteer? They have the same YPT and other required clearances as a paying volunteer. Cash? 😏

@RichardB Oh keeper of the G2SS can/will you provide us more than a link to the dictionary on the whys/logic/decision process on the cub "single overnight experience"? Is there a safety issue? YPT issue? Thanks.

@mrjohns2....that's pretty cynical...loophole? really? MBCs have been "free" for a long time and required to have YPT. What's changed?

This is all designed to make more MBCs registered as paid adults. I'm guessing they don't want all MBCs to be paid positions because a number of them that are MBCs only will walk away. I wonder how many MBCs are already dual registered.

Saw where the Rockford Diocese has severed ties.

Most charge $25/MB so that would be $250000 in revenue....Criminal GTA 7.0.4.7 certainly applies to every one of these MBs.

I was just wondering how many are still meeting at their old UMC churches (FUA) how many were able to find new sponsors how many are sponsored by their council how many unfortunately folded

Any feedback on how this went or is going in your local councils?

@malrauxwhere can you see this dashboard.

Let me say you have been extremely blessed in how your girl troop has worked out for you. I'm not sure that others have been so fortunate just struggling to get leaders. It does make one wonder why the GSA couldn't figure out how to make their program more supportive of what the girls want. Of course my answer is because they didn't want to.

Okay….Cub Scout RANK requirements absolutely cannot be used for Boy Scout RANK requirements.