MikeS72

You never know! I am very active in my district, working with a Pack and Troop and as an Assistant District Commissioner. Also volunteer as a Day Camp Director and Cub Rangemaster, am very active in OA and spend a great deal of time at our council camp.

If your choice is to move to another unit and you do not want to take on a leadership role with the new unit I would suggest contacting your District Commissioner. Pretty much every district could use more commissioners, and that would allow you to maintain active involvement with the OA. (although your BSA registration is still good for the remainder of the charter year - here in the CFC being Dec. 31)

Not sure if it is being pushed more for the propective revenues or due to the fact that I was told by one of the higher up in my council that the bankruptcy court told BSA it cannot show negative balance for the event.

We are looking at doing exactly this... We typically have up to 9 adults present, but only 1 is not either the SM or an ASM. Several have indicated that they are will in switch to committee at recharter.

One of many question I would have based on this report would be whether the Aloha Council provided a NCAP trained and certified Range Master for the event, or did the troop reserve a site at the council camp and bring their own guns. I know that in the case of my council we can set up a shooting activity but only under the direction of trained and certified personnel, usually a member of the council shooting sport staff.

I am lucky that I have our Cubmaster's (female CM) daughter, our treasurer's (female) son, and our Committee Chair's son all in my Bear Den. Always have 4 registered leaders present, two of whom are female.

How long does the average council camp keep copies of summer camp records? Based on the OP's statement this took place the summer before COVID, so summer of 2019, more than 3 years ago.

Proof read, proof read, and then proof read again!!! 😄

If your council is anything like most, the Scout Shop is a National Council shop and probably struggling to find enough people to work. Our shop is also an hour drive from me, but everyone who works there is very friendly and I have never seen anyone not be able to be helped in a prompt timeframe.

Hello neighbor! (sort of - same council, different district; we may even know each other if you are active in OA)

Saw this on Thursday. Not much information released yet, although it appears that a spokesperson from national stated that there was an accidental discharge of a firearm. Child killed in shooting accident at Hawaii Boy Scout Camp | News, Sports, Jobs - Maui News

The only person who can hold more than one REGISTERED position in a unit is the COR who can also serve as committee chair. SM/ASM cannot hold any other REGISTERED position. Many people consider things like secretary, treasurer, advancement chair to be registered positions -- they are not, they are functional roles. When chartering a committee has to have a Committee Chair and at least 21 Committee Members; what roles those committee members take on is of no concern outside the unit. I know of several ASMs who also handle advancement for their units as that is a functional role, not a registered position.

I don't think it had anything to do with uniform issues, but on the day that I saw the scout the OP was upset with the event schedule included an ArrowPride luncheon. My thought when seeing him was that he would be taking part in that event. I did see members of his contingent several times during the week, as we were assigned to the same dining hall for meals. As far as I remember they were ALL in full uniform at dinner. I even ended up at the same table in the dining hall with that group for lunch midway through the week, and spoke with him briefly. No one in his group seemed to have any problem with him, so I saw no reason why I should. It made no sense for me to get upset with how someone I did not know and only spoke to once chose to dress, just like it made no sense for me to be upset with the countless people, youth and adults, who had position patches on their right sleeve instead of the left, or temp patches on their left pocket instead of rank. Far more important issues in the world and in scouting to worry about.

Enjoyed reading the article, as this was my original council (15 years after the statue was dedicated).

I have heard a bugler or three who could have been arrested for murdering musical notes!! 😋

Based on his descriptions I would venture to say that VFC stands for Volunteer Fire Company.

Unlike when the LDS units dropped and most of their membership left the UMC situation should be more of a change in CO status with most of those units and scouts remaining in the program. I am sure we will lose a few units and scouts, but not the mass drop in enrollment that some are fearing.

Could be that your district has assigned someone due to the above statement. A unit of 90 Scouts that includes 20 girls is operating outside of the separate units for boys and girls rule.

Here is the uniform standard for said national event (there have been enough things mentioned that I am 99.999% sure which event is being referenced. I also spoke to that 'former head of an airline' at length, and think he will do a fine job in his new postion within BSA): All conference participants and staff are to be in full field uniform at dinner and all evening shows. For breakfast, lunch, training sessions, day time and evening activities and events, participants and staff may wear a NOAC, OA or Scout t-shirt or golf shirt with their Scout shorts or trousers during the conference.

Absolutely nothing; as long as you can run a fun and safe program and that is what your scouts choose to do. As @malrauxstated above it does require a lot of work, both by the youth and the adult volunteers. My troop has not done this in place of summer camp, but we have done a number of other full week programs.

I have also seen scouters wearing that particular knot, and while not approved in my council I did speak to people who in casual conversation (I have never confronted anyone for wearing it) stated that their local council has approved it for uniform wear. While he is not a member of council I did happen to eat lunch at the same table as the young man wearing the tutu (although not the same day he wore it) and found him to be articulate and well spoken. I was well aware why he chose to wear the tutu the day he wore it and was not embarrased in the least by someone I only met and spoke with once and will likely never meet again.

Thank you. I was at said national event and several members of our contingent were able to attend due to said lodge scholarships.

This is where we differ in addressing uniform issues. The uniform is one of the methods of scouting, it is not one of the aims. There is no rule stating that any scout must have a uniform in order to participate in any event. We have the BoR. While it is recommended that a scout wear the uniform to a BoR, or at least as much of it as he/she owns, a scout cannot and should not be denied if they are unable to obtain a uniform. As I stated earlier in this thread my scout and I are always in complete uniform for all activities. I can afford multiple uniforms and have no problem wearing a different complete one that is specific to the position I am representing at the time. Not everyone can do that, and as someone else mention earlier today the 'you can find them in thrift stores' thing is not always true. I will repeat what I said a couple of days ago: the uniform itself is not nearly as important as the person inside the uniform (or the jeans and t-shirt if that is all they can manage).

Would this perhaps have been at the recent NOAC at UT Knoxville? I do recall seeing a young man from a different Lodge dressed like that, although not while wearing any part of the uniform. Did not look like most in attendance gave him more than a passing glance.

My days as a scout were in the 60's when everyone in the troop was in a complete uniform for every activity and every troop meeting included a uniform inspection, so I fully understand the desire to see that type of uniforming by our current scouts. My uniform and that of my scout are complete down to the socks, everything is in the correct place and everyone in my unit, district and council is used to the fact that they will never see us incorrectly uniformed. I am not really sure what you are referring to as far as scouts or scouters dressing in an offensive, embarrassing and inappropriate way. While I love seeing those scouts who are on top of their uniforming game, I would much rather see enthusiastic scouts enjoying and learning the lessons scouting offers even if they do not own a uniform. I often hear the "if they really want it they will find a way to afford the uniform" line from people, but that is not always reality, particularly in the Cub Scout program where parents are expected to buy a new handbook, neckercheif, slide, and hat every year. Seeing a scout who can only afford a shirt should never be offensice, ebarrassing or inappropriate. It is what is inside that shirt that matters, not the shirt itself. I would hope that most here would agree with me. I know not all will, and that is fine.