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I misunderstood the initial post to be about the fellowship. I'm not that familiar with OA, but the NCAP SA-001 will guide you for the standard that apply to most event. When I did the Short Term Camp Administrator training, there was specific mention that certain things like OA conclaves that involve more than one council will be different. Your OA weekend - Short Term Camp and the NCAP standards will apply. Troop Camp Out - not a council organized event, so refer back to the Guide to Safe Scouting. Patrol Event - that's a unit event, GTSS applies. The real fun comes in the adult training area. Our BALOO and IOLS weekend is now considered a short term camp that requires a health officer, etc. I do Cub Scout shooting sports and there are some new changes for us as well when it comes to doing events at our council's camp or off site. It's been an interesting experience. I took one of the earliest national level virtual trainings in December and the changes went into effect on January 1st! Locally we are all still trying to sort this stuff out. This NCAP circular has a lot more info on the "why" and implementation. Our council NCAP guru pointed it out to me when we were doing the training and it helped give more context on the "why" of some of the changes. https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/NCAP-Circular-No-15.pdf

That's the 2019 standards. Check the 2021 at the link below and FS-601 does indeed apply to short term camps. https://www.scouting.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/2021-NCAP-Standards-430-056-Official-1.pdf

Thanks for the additional information. I had not seen that particular website before, so I appreciate the additional info. For those interested, this is what the council and district flags look like: https://www.scoutshop.org/custom-districtcouncilcamp-fringed-flag-3x5-653799.html

I read somewhere that the square knot was first issued around 1971 and at that time, the background of the commissioner patches was blue and that's why they picked blue. I've seen some councils that have lists of awardees prior to 1971, so the award itself may predate the issue of the knot. Congratulations TLS on your award. I was totally blindsided myself a couple of years ago to be given the award.

Yes, but be aware that these are a canvas material. Not quite as heavy as the ones described as heavy canvas, but they can still be warm in the summer. You may want to look at the quick dry version. https://www.scoutshop.org/shop-by-scout/boy-scouts/boy-scout-mens-polyester-microfiber-switchback-relaxed-fit-pants-612141.html

As an aside, at a recent National Camping School training for the new short term camp administrator position, one of the trainers mentioned that there should be an updated shooting sorts manual being released in Q1 of 2021.

I have this hat and I love it. As others have said, it's a crushable felt hat. The only knock I have on it is the placement of the hat pin. This hat rests lower on the head than the campaign hat, so the pin needs to go up higher to avoid getting stabbed. There is no guide or anything like the vent hole on the campaign hat, so if you're like me, you will drive yourself nuts trying to center it. I never got it quite perfect. I used some locking pin backs and I threw in a disposable sweat liner that I use for my caps (I can sweat through a hat like no tomorrow!) and that helps a lot. This is my go-to hat for cooler weather. I've had it for five years and other than brushing it occasionally, it's a low maintenance hat.

Here's a news story about the first year of Scouts BSA Girls attending our local camp. https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Local-BSA-scout-camp-opens-doors-to-all-girl-troops-511816471.html

Well, this is just sad. Frustrating also. I find it interesting that this is not in the main GTSS, either shooting sports manual, and was never mentioned when our camp was inspected this summer (June) and I had scouts from tiger to WEBELOS on the range. I suppose at this rate, I'll have to ask for proof of citizenship before I let them on the range before long.

Based on this website: http://uniform-reference.net/insignia/usarmy/usa_enlisted_1920_conv.html I have reason to believe that this is the insignia for a quartermaster sergeant of the motor transport corps.

The top rank insignia is a World War I era 1st sergeant, upside down. All of the patches that you have posted seem to be roughly from the world war I era. The second one is eluding me so far, it looks so much like a motor sergeant, but the "thing" inside the wheel spoke is not on the standard motor sergeant insignia. There were an ungodly number of different insignia for ranks and specialties for the US Army in World War I, so much so that they created supply issues and they standardized the ranks and insignia down to seven grades and basic insignia in 1920. I'll keep digging for the newer images you posted, these are very cool and collectible pieces of history. My guess is that since in the olden days the Army hosted the jamborees, these are surplus insignia that they gave to the scouts. In your newest set, the third patch down that looks like "SOS" is for the WWI AEF Service of Supply. They were the troops assigned to move the supplies from the French ports up to the various units of the AEF.

Most of these appear to be period insignia of US Army formations and a couple of rank insignia. The Lincoln appears to be from the 84th Division (Rail Splitters). The Shield with the Cross of Lorraine from the 79th Division. The mountains in shield the 80th division, next one may be a special unit, the Circle A is the 3rd Army, the red diamond the 5th Division, The green with the horn appears to be a special unit, a couple of sets of sergeant stripes that I can't quite ID yet (They appear to be upside down) and the last one is the 4th Diivision (Ivy Division). I'll poke around for those special unit and rank insignia. https://www.loc.gov/resource/ds.09804/

Wrongfully, Welcome to the forum! As a COR I have had this conversation with someone before. As bearess said, I'd want to meet and discuss the situation, preferably not in a scout setting and with a bit of privacy. I want to see how up front the person is with me about their charges, the circumstances and whether this is the only offense, or if there were others. The things I want to consider is how old was the person when they committed the offense? A 19 year old getting a DUI or simple possession is (in my consideration) different than a 40 year old. I'd want to know if you have completed any kind of treatment program and whether you have completed your probation. Basically, I am of the mind that humans can, and often do, make mistakes or do stupid things. I want to see if the person has learned from it and how have they conducted themselves since their conviction. That said, I am always upfront with them. If there is any indication that they are going back to old ways or if they are violations of the law (even traffic infractions) I won't hesitate to yank my approval. However, every COR is going to look at things with a different lens. Whatever the case, be prepared to be very upfront and honest with them. Best of luck to you!

I found this interesting (from section I): "One-on-one contact between adult leaders and youth members is prohibited both inside and outside of Scouting." A literal reading of this would mean that I can never again babysit my scout nephew, even if it's not a scouting event. Yikes. (Of course an even more literal reading of this means my brother can no longer take his scout son to school while mom takes younger brother to daycare.)

Wow, I read things like this on here and I learn how lucky I am to be in my little council. I also volunteer at the district level and I have heard the SE tell the DE's (and carry through on it) that if they ran a district event and showed a profit he would fire them. His theory being that if your event showed a profit, you didn't offer the kiddos enough program. We may be struggling for funds, we may be spread out all over a huge territory of rural counties, but at least we don't have to deal with the kind of stuff I read about on here. I feel for you guys, hang in there and find a role where you can maximize the experience for the scouts and keep your sanity. Also, I promise not to gripe so much about stuff that goes on at my council.