Dmward

your somewhat right, some of the requirements are a standard of character... so then he did not complete all requirements based on the character requirements

Thankyou, this is the best incite I've received so far. your right, the information I have is "rumor" and not official. never will be because he is a minor regardless of the source. being caught with "weed" is not a factor, Im glad its not something worse like herion ect, Its the poor choice taking the weed to school knowing the consequences if he gets caught. I don't want to join the Rumor mill that's not who I am. I also have to be very carful with what I say and post. the jail comment...well that part would be true if one of the charges is "intent to distribute". again Im not looking at actual crimes or charges may be. I will never know official facts unless the family tells me, highly unlikely... Im looking at the decision he made engaging in criminal behavior, twice. The boy just makes enough meetings and event to stay within our attendance policy. and did complete leadership requirements needed. nothing above that but again that's all we require. Ive been doing a lot of thinking on of what my recommendation will be but the committee has final say. things like should I allow him to finish his project and not sign his review and let him go appeal and get his eagle without a troop ceremony.... I do struggle with this entire issue, its heartbreaking.....

Here is another factor to think about, the boy will be an adult in 8 months, what will he learn from a pardon and allowing him to be an eagle. besides all the other factors most of us work for companies that drug test. if any one of us make a bad choice and ingest drugs and fail a drug test once no less twice, do we get a pardon along with a raise? this is also an opportunity to teach someone on the cuff of adulthood a life lesion, the lesion is NOT that its ok to disregard laws and policy's you will still make it to the top......

there is a eagle project contract for every eagle project. my mind is made up about him not deserving eagle at this time, struggling with allowing him to still be part of our troop. many factors and ramifications apply here

well the boy will be 18 in 8 months, I have 36 other scouts and familys that could possibly be affected by this as well. we all know how much fun dealing with parents can be... my concerns are how many parents will pull there boys out of the troop. is it fair to the ones who did nothing wrong(or at least never got caught) to be removed? eagle is off the table at this point as far as in concerned. forgiving him is easy, swearing in front of my troop and community that the boy is one of finest examples of a scout and honoring him with privilege of eagle scout. that I cant do....

I agree, but I aslo have 36 other concerned scouts and parents to think about as well.

his eagle project is not complete, if the decision is made to remove to boy from the troop he can not complete the project. the troop owns the project and will take it over. he can move on to another troop and still get his eagle but he will be 18 in 8 months. If he is found guilty in a court of law of criminal behavior it then becomes a council issue and the boy will be banned from boyscouts

its so much more than requirements at this point. or recreational use of pot. he made a "mistake and was caught in school with weed, he was then mentored and disciplined by the scoutmaster. did he learn from that??? No, he repeated the exact same negative behavior. the boy is 18 in 8 months. I also have 36 other scouts and parents to worry about. an eagle scout is a elite group of the finest in scouting. Can I honestly stand infront of my troop and community and say this boy is one of the finest examples of boy scouts and deserve to be part of this elite group. or by allowing this behavior am I smacking every eagle scout in the face......

I completely agree

Thankyou

I wonder the same, his father and brother are eagle scouts and the father seems to be driving him.

I do not know what help outside of scouts he is getting, the parents were very hostile during the first offense and we had to ban the father from scout activates. I do not hold or judge any scout based on parents behaviors. He was mentored and disciplined by the scoutmaster for the first offence. he repeated the exact same offence, "caught with pot at school"... he will be 18 in 8 months. I also have 36 other scouts to worry about as well. an eagle scout is a elite group of the finest examples of a scout..... is he one of the finest examples??? does he deserve to be part of this elite group . The foremost responsibility of an Eagle Scout is to live with HONOR

Im not looking to crucify or give empathy... Im all about doing the right thing for troop. few fasts, the boy will be 18 in 8 months. second time getting caught with pot in school while being a scout... he was mentored and disciplined for the first time. My committee majority are educational executives within the school district and know the facts. they cant disclose one word but do have the vote that I don't have.all I can do is make a recommendation. so im struggling with, can I stand in front of the community and swear this boy deserves to be eagle..... is that a slap in the face to all eaglescouts? will scout parents disagree and pull their boys out....who looses if that happens.... the boy repeated the same illegal behavior twice.... in school.... im getting calls from concerened parents who hear rumors now and are concerned for their boys..... im just listening to their concerns and my comment is the same to all parents calling me. " I will not entertaining any rumors, especially rumors about a minor child. The troop will investigate these allegations and take appropriate action if necessary" and I leave it at that.

I did leave a lot of facts out of my original post. it was Pot, We did sit with him the first time, excuse then was " I was holding it for someone" He was disciplined for the first offence. the boy also has 8 months until his 18 birthday

No conclusion jumping here, facts only..... and if he is/was found guilty in a court then the issue becomes a council issue and the scout will be banned from scouting. at the troop level we can only remove him from our troop and he can still join another troop