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I have never seen discrimination towards Catholic Scouts in person, but I'm not going to be ignorant and say it doesn't happen either. It really sucks your Scouts experienced that and I'm sorry that is happening. That said....WHAT THE &#(@ ARE YOU DOING TAKING SCOUTS TO A PRO-LIFE RALLEY. My God man, use some common sense. Politics of the event aside, those always have the potential to get out of control. Don't put kids in that position. I'll await my downvote.

I'm guessing two things: 1. He's a previous volunteer 2. He's not going to last long But all in all, that's not his job.

As a DE in a rural area, my biggest fear was internet access for my volunteers. I have seen storylines. My district committee has loved using zoom because they don't have to drive to "another meeting". The Chair has proposed we make this a regular thing even in a post pandemic world. Unit level volunteers despise it and would rather risk meeting in person than do anymore #ScoutingAtHome. And to their credit, a lot of them don't get any internet access at all anyways. The Comms still meet up at a bar for their meetings I'm pretty sure lol.

I find crying to be effective.

Very good thoughts, but I think if you wanted to make nice with folks out in the field, it has to be a paid National Scouter making time for these types of Town Hall Events.

I think we can find some middle ground here. The two deep thing should've followed a K.I.S.S. philosophy, but National did National things. I think the big difference i was trying to make (and I did a poor job, tbh), was that the poster was not arguing the rhyme or reason of a rule, but disagreeing with it just based on who made it (in this case Big BSA).

These positions actually do exist. There is an ACSE of Outdoors adventures (but his primary role is oversseing the HA bases). There is a National Director of Program. She is actually an oddity in that she was never a Professional. She was directly hired to the position. Under her are: National Director of Cub Scouts National Director of Scouts BSA National Director of Exploring. I believe they eliminated the Venturing/Sea Scout Director position. I have said this before on this forum, but am very open and candid with the volunteers I work with. My philosophy has always been "if someone is going to help me solve a problem, then they need to know the problem first". Not to brag, but I believe honesty and integrity have led me to have a great working relationship with all my volunteers and my district has directly benefited from it. It DOES however have a tendency to annoy my SE. But hey, hard to argue with results.

I work for the CEO and no one has heard from him directly since he took the job. Surbaugh would at least make the effort to communicate with field staff. To your point though, upper and middle management have always been the weakest link of the Boy Scouts. There are a lot of artificial layers to National.

lol. But on a much more serious note, it actually worries me that you're teaching youth to be hateful, judgmental, and un-scoutlike.

Imagine being so cynical towards the BSA, you hate rules that are put in place that are meant to protect children. Wild.

you say this like it's a bad thing?

lol

Correct. Per the Annual Charter Agreement.

Well.....That sucks.

What a time to make more restrictions.

My Troop used to pay for lifetime NESA membership for all eagles. So I wear mine out of respect and gratitude for the Leadership.

Trail Life has the illusion of stability. They don't even have 10% of the youth protection standards BSA does. God forbid something happens to a youth, they are done for. I have to give it to them though. They figured out the secret on how to recruit 11-17 year olds.

Mergers talks have gone on for decades. Rumor was it we got really close in the late 2000s/early 2010's, but then came crashing down. Some field offices even housed both organizations in preparation. If GS/USA does ever buy the BSA, it would just be to liquidate it, not save it. Of course, they do have a new CEO now so anything is possible. The last one was VERY anti-BSA.

It's not like I made anything up. I literally provided official BSA sources. And David suggested Lone Scouting started in an urban environment. You and I, based on your wiki source, actually agree that it didn't

I thought you wanted an organization where the Chartered Organizations ran everything? Why the sudden shift in heart?

This is incorrect. I have attached the official BSA Lone Scouting guidebook for reference. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/boyscouts/pdf/511-420.pdf Here is also an article from Bryan on Scouting that helps explains the origins and reasoning behind Lone Scouting: https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2015/09/28/what-are-lone-scouts/ I don't believe the BSA has a distorted vision of Lone Scouting. It actually may be you have a distorted vision. Hope that helps. Thanks.

Sometimes I feel you hope Scouting dies just so we can all be unemployed

This is actually starting to regain traction in our virtual setting.

Scouting, by design, is most effective when in a group setting. (i.e dens, patrols). Lone Scouting is an absolute last resort option if traditional unit can't happen. I HIGHLY DOUBT there are councils out there that will refuse to register a Lone Scout, ESPECIALLY when there is declining membership. I'm not sure what you mean when you say the "structure" of Lone Scouts is better. There is no structure....that's the point. Unless that is your argument.

Just got done talking to a buddy of mine who is (was) at ScoutingU. it was over 100 people...permanently. Most of the training team, member care, a good chunk of supply, membership growth coaches... This is heartbreaking. Whatever your feeling towards paid BSA members, it's gut wrenching to see people lose their jobs, especially in a time of such uncertainty. A lot of good people who don't deserve this.