Casper72

I dont know why people think they have to critique everything about other people. Its one reason why I really did not want to post this here. But to answer some questions yes the troop is not super big. It has 10 scouts. I dont know why you shouldn't have a SPL with 10 scouts. they need to learn how to lead people . Also I also know this should be more of a SM issue but the SM came to me about how to handle it and I am not going to just not help. If I took someones reply out of context then I apologize. I just do not understand what the big deal is of having a SPL for 10 scouts. Maybe I am just naive. But anyways we have the situation figured out and put rules into place for the future so these kinds of things do not happen again. Than you for your replies.

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We have an issue in our troop. Elections were held and text in votes were agreed to count as not everyone could be there. Well one person got 4 votes and the other got three by time meeting was dismissed. But sjortly after another vote came in to make it a tie. The onw in the lead has held the spl position 4 times in a row already. I say since thwy agreed to allow for text in voting without a time limit it counts. Personally, i think others need a chance to be spl. To add to the drama parents have gotten into it and both back their child. Please help!!! Yes i know no text voting. I am the COR and did not know about this til after it happened. I believe the church would also want others to have a chance also.

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I think what I am going to do is suggest to her that he work on them together. His main thing is that he wants to be with his friends but does not mind putting in the work. I guess we will have to see if he really wants to work on both or not. Also, the AoL den is starting to teach patrol method when we get back to meetings in late August. We also have a day camp coming up that will be able to help a little in doing some of the requirements. I think if he realizes that if he puts in the hard work he will be able to get both I think he will but I guess it would be a wait and see. I do think he would be ready for scouts in six to nine months but that is a newbies opinion. He has been really well behaved and listens very well in my interactions with him. Once again thank you all very much for your replies.

Hey thank you all for your responses. First, this is not my son. It is another youth in the troop and his mother talked to me about this. His friends are in the AoL group and he is still in the Webelos. But like I said before it seemed like he did things at home outside of the den when he was a bear. He was always being awarded more things than all the other boys of his den. My position in all of this is just as a supportive parent of my own son. I am not a leader in any fashion in the troop or den. I have offered to help out if it is ever needed or wanted. But have not been taken up on the offer as of yet. I would not even mind helping this boy to do them at the same time. We all went to a resident camp in June and finished one elective and only have a couple things on two other ele tives so it would not be that hard to help him with another elective and focus on the required items. I do have one other question though is the time to be a Webelos and Arrow of Light if he works on them together then would he still be able to cross over with the others in January or would he have to spend additional time? Or can that time be concurrent?

Hey guys love the site and love the forums. I wish they were even busier as I love to chat about scouting. As I am new to scouting with my son I frequent all the different forums. Ok on to my question. I have a friend who has her son in the same troop as my son. Her son is just becoming a Webelos and turns 10 this month. My question is can her son just tell his den leader that he does not want to do the Webelos I program and work on the Arrow of Light since he will be 10 1/2 at the time all the others cross over into a troop. That is where his friends are at and he wants to be. He does not want to spend two years in Cub Scouts and the fact that in one year he can join a troop anyways. I know in his previous ranks he has went ahead and worked on extra electives outside of den meetings to earn other things that most of the other boys did not do. I suggested to his mom that if he could work on the Arrow of Light that he still works and tries to earn Webelos things also. Thank you for any help you can provide. I think I have seen that you can but the situations were a little different so just wanted to clarify. Also if he can how do you not upset the den/troop leader when telling him that he wants to do this. Once again thank you for your replies I love learning as much about this as I can. Casper72

Personally, I would move troops. The leadership in that group is not the best, to say the least. Having an outburst in front of kids that include cursing, slamming doors, and the such is just stupid. Why they keep him is unexplainable? Obviously, the leadership of this troop does not have the scouts best interest at heart. While it is coming from district makes it even worse. My suggestion would be to contact someone higher up because my thought is that this just a lawsuit waiting to happen when something worse happens in front of or to one of the parents of one of the kids. It is unfortunate that the other pack leaders do not stand up to have him removed in unity.