I agree it lasts too long. 5th graders, who could be 12 years old, don't want to hang out with 1st graders, let alone Kindergartners who might start when they are 4, depending on when your school district's cut-off is. The most common reason I, as chairman, received for boys quitting is that "Scouting is for little kids." Adding Lions to the program will only exacerbate this problem.