JosephMD

I recall my post president and vice president wearing dark green uniforms in the 90's, definitely before venturing. Maybe the uniforms were older, I've seen some good examples of before my time explorer uniforms.

I have 4 cub scout unifoms that I've been thinking about donating to my younger son's pack. He's moved to the boy scout uniform as a webelos and I have no younger children that will use them. 1 small and 1 medium short sleeve 1 small and 1 medium long sleeve I even have one good pair of cub scout convertible pants, the other didn't quite make it through two scouts. I was thinking that I should sew the required elements on properly. My wife is the pack committee chair, and while she thinks this is a good idea, she doesn't really know exactly how to handle it. They could go to new scouts, first come first serve. They could go to scouts in financial need. They could hang in the scout closet for scouts that forget their uniform. They could even be used as models for recuriting display, to show parents how the uniform is supposed to be put together. Or any combonation of these.

One of my son's 4 uniforms used to be mine. It is done up inthe late 80's style, with the white on red unit number, red loops, the old red and white tote n chip on the right pocket, and a green position of respnsibility patch. I made it for him because he is just a busy scout, but it has become his go to choice whenever it is clean. I encourage him to save that one for non unit events, like, OA chapter meetings, NYLT staff development, etc. as I think he doesn't quite look like he is in uniform at troop events, but, he says he likes it because it is soft! He has both long and short sleeve modern uniforms, and a venturing uniform. I think he said something recently about trying to find an 80's era explorer uniform.

My son will be getting a campaign hat soon, he's staffing an NYLT and that was what they decided to wear as staffers. An unexpected expense to say the least, but I was thinking of getting one for myself, I guess I'll just skip that for now.

My son is the only scout I've ever seen that wears pathes ont he back of his merit badge sash. He has 4 so far, His OA section patch, the OA NOAC Section patch, his NOAC standard participant patch, and a patch representing our district. He's putting a lot of thought into what the next two should be. He may want to contine the OA theme, but also, he is pretty proud of NYLT. As the one that sews, I've only asked him to stick with his decision, because if he wants to replace one, I'll let him do the sewing!

@@Beavah - your style is going to take some getting used to. I'm going to let my son do venturing without me, completely, I'm already on his troop's committee and his chapter adviser. His crew is focused on shooting sports, which is an activity he enjoys. He is already looking at the ranger award and advancement thing, he's also interested in the Venturing Officers Association thing, because, he can't get enough leadership. But yeah, my post as a youth was basically, more camping, and probably, some sort of trick to get us boys to help girls with their girl scout gold and silver projects. J

This has been a very interesting thread. Although, sometimes the finder details have gotten more attention than I think they deserve. I think early in the thread the original question was answered a couple of ways and I'm sure the OP got way more than he was expecting on the ins and outs of boy leadership and patrol method.

Wow, the internet is small. I am the chapter adviser for the chapter that cancelled. (is that word spelled with one L or two? I can never remember and they both spell check) @@Oldscout448 and I had a conversation later I'm zealous for letting the youth run their organization, and the chief made the call to cancel. Not a call I agreed with, but it was made. Communication was difficult, as, I was camping with my unit that day, as was the chief. The sad thing was that we were just on the other side of the property where the call out was happening. Lets go back. My assessment is that the problem originated several weeks earlier at an ordeal planning meeting. Chief & Ceremonies chief weren't there, and when the idea was floated by the other chapter, I may have over stepped and volunteered them. Even though they got on board, I'm not sure the chapter leadership as a whole really were, but some times, even when trying to let them run it, as adults we can be overly suggestive. A few days before, there was an e-mail exchange, yeah yeah, email exchange always leads to something bad, but, the chief had suggested cancelling, my response was something like, you should work that out with the other chapter. I think the chief's understanding was that he had cancelled, but it went no further. On the day, I was camping with my son's unit as they needed a second adult. I wondered down the trail and to my surprise, the chief was camping with his unit. I had the conversation with him, is the call out cancelled? His response, yes. I was not really in a position to get the word out, so I called an associate adviser to help which ended up being an e-mail a couple of hours before saying it was cancelled. My son, is on the team, so I was able to get the word to him, the chief is on the team, so, obviously he was aware. What they didn't know was that it was still happening. I'd bet a paycheck that they'd have run right over if they were aware of the difficulties just a couple hundred yards down the trail. So, why this scheduling failure? Well, usually, at least for as long as I could remember, there would be a district camporee that weekend in march, and many units have that weekend blocked in their calendar for camping. The district camporee was moved to April, one week before the ordeal, which, made having a surprise call out kind of difficult. Some more history, the two chapters were once one, and we still have joint ordeals and have worked together on other things, so, it is not like we are strangers. What I have taken away: I should start referring commitments to the chief or his designee for that program and be careful not to make it seem like I am volunteering the chapter for something. I should stop assuming that I am on the same page as my chief and follow up when things are not crystal clear. And I should continue to work with the other advisers and make sure that decisions having impact to other chapters, area, lodge, or even other program areas within the chapter are communicated and received. I'm happy to say that the chapter ceremonies chief changed his mind and accepted the role again for another year! After that incident, I think some lessons were learned and the team seemed to shake off that loss, regroup, put on a great call out at the camporee and continued to work well together through the ceremonies at our spring ordeal a few weeks ago! @@Oldscout448 - I'm not sure I can thank you enough for your dedication to the chapter's ceremonies team and beyond. @@hendrickms24 - I look forward to working with you as my counterpart from the other side of the county (you know where I live now!)

Obligatory, I'm new to this forum. I've been around other scout forums on the Internet, always looking for that next good idea. I was quite active as a scout in my youth, between the troop, the post, & the OA, there were times when I'd be camping three weekends per month! I came up short earning Eagle, I blame all the fun I was having, then that 17 year old version of myself that had a few better things to do and poof, I was 18. I don't think my oldest scout will have that problem, he's 14 and Life, working on Eagle, with his goal to earn it in time to have his Eagle Court of Honor before he attends the 2017 National Jamboree. He is also in the OA, just joined a Venture crew, is an NYLT graduate and staffing as a troop guide this summer. This summer, NAYLE, NYLT Staff, summer camp 1, OA Summit Experience, & summer camp 2. I had to tell him no when he wanted to sign up for yet another week of camp! My younger scout recently earned his Webelos badge. A busy summer for a cub, Day Camp by choice, resident family camp & resident webelos camp because his parents think it is good for him, and cub scouts in general, also, his mother is the pack committee chair trying to put some more outing in cub scouting and better prepare the pack's webelos for boy scouts. Me, I think the scouting program, its aims and methods are awesome, and a very worthwhile cause for my time and treasure. I'm not in it for my children, but for all scouts. My troop role is as a member of the troop's committee handling advancement. I also camp with the troop when an extra adult is needed. I am also the district's OA chapter adviser, a job I really like. I knew I wouldn't be a good cub scout leader, and even some of the first year boy scouts I find it very difficult to work with, it's not them, its me, but after they've been doing it for a few years, get some experience and get elected to the OA, they are usually at a level I can handle. Oh, my youngest scout is a girl, she is a brownie, or she just bridged to a junior, but for camp this summer, she is still considered a brownie, we double and triple checked, so, well, next fall, she will definitely be a junior. When it comes to forums and internet conversation, I come and go. For some reason I'm craving information right now, just can't get enough, especially about venturing, I wasn't paying attention much and it seems like the whole program has gone and reinvented itself, or is it just explorers without the law enforcement posts?