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jamskinner

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  1. Who told you this? Local leader, seventy, etc?
  2. oops, meant to respond to CalicoPenn. Sorry for the mistake. I don't think you can make any judgements based on the comments. I live in Utah and understand the culture very well. The reason for most people wanting to leave BSA is the vote on gay leadership. There may be other minor reasons, but that is what made people want out. I bet if you could find a poll asking the same question from several years ago the results would be the exact opposite. I wish I could find one. If you want to read comments that apply read these on the announcement. http://www.deseretnews.com/user/comments/765678271/LDS-Church-statement-responding-to-Boy-Scouts-of-America-policy-change.html Finally the comments by the church are approved by the leaders of the church including Thomas Monson. Yes he has a strong history with scouts. What this should tell you is that the lds church is really serious about this and not just blowing smoke.​ ​
  3. I don't believe that poll addresses the reason why. I would be willing to bet most feel this way because of this recent vote, not because they feel scouting is forced on them. There maybe a few that feel this way or think that it should be the same as the young women's program, but I have only seen that brought up on feminist websites. I personally enjoyed scouts and felt it was a good program. Maybe someone will do a follow up poll asking why people feel the way they do.
  4. You keep assuming the BSA will back them up. I highly doubt it. Yes they say they will, but the leadership seems so PC on this issue I see them buckling under. As far as the church itself, it would seem they would have more legal protection by implementing their own program as part of the church then using the BSA program. That way it is a religious argument and not a private group one. I am not schooled in law though so I could definitely be wrong. Seems like it would be tough for the BSA to defend it's double standard of allowing religious groups to discriminate while not allowing the non-religious groups that option. Again though I have no professional basis for that opinion though. Maybe someone can enlighten me. Finally the church has no need to be defended by the BSA considered it has vastly greater resources then the BSA does.
  5. The church doesn't quite work that way. The only group that has authority for policy is the first presidency and quorum of the twelve. They only make decisions when they all agree, so no one is going to go out and say something and then have it not backed up. Could if be a miscommunication, maybe but not very likely. Also look up the scouting experience of the president of the church. His name is Thomas S. Monson. Someone that connected is not likely going to be misunderstood. I think this vote is just the final nail in the coffin. It would be easier and cheaper for the church to just run their own program. They also would not have to worry about getting sued and not having BSA back them up, which in my opinion is what will happen.
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