ShootingSports

One of the best quotes I have provided any volunteer in our organization. "If your not happy, pick up your toys and play in another area". I have told youth, leaders and professionals this. Discouragement is tough to deal with, not matter where in BSA. I try to tell myself, all scouting happens only at the unit level (and all units are run by volunteers)

One of the ten essentials.....

Organization run by volunteers or professionals? .........Failure at "council" is failure of volunteers........ just my 2 cents.

What has happen to Volunteer run and Professionally advised?

Nothing Better Why Not? Why Asking? Devine Revelations Character Development What's Better? Prepared Life Is there a limit?

Pure speculation on rationale : 2 nights require a lot of resources that a number of packs would not be prepared to host. Cost of the events increase significantly for the 2nd night (putting a strain on CS parents). 2 nights is an exhausting pace and fatigue leads to accidents. Dont want competition with our own camps. National might have seen pattern in reported injuries and correlated to two night stays. Our program is "progressive" in advancement ( 1 night for CS and more for BS). NCAP kicks in and requires significant planning to comply (Units not prepared whereas Camps are (or at least should be). Seven potential reasons......

The difference seems to be in Unit camping on their own and not on council property - limited to one night. Council camp with program provided then 2 nights is ok.

Cause you can camp at a Council camp with their provided program covered under NCAP

I have done research, but my conjectures in the past have been based on speculation. However, I still looking for the pot of gold, someone else has mined. I was truly taken aback that our National organization does not have this data readily available.

So, in our area we have a 0.9% market share of total available youth. That leaves 99.1% not in scouting. Does anyone have survey data on what this 99% are doing with their time and their kids? Not looking for personal stories, I am looking for true survey data that has demographics, economic, social, and interests data. Anyone???? (Yes I asked at National)

Completed it with fake email......Ya its a donation pitch

Same here for getting info. Better hear than my BOD. and thank you Eagle94-A1 for your work on this here.

Heard somewhere "Change Happens" and you need to roll with the flow. My favorite is "Do you want the windows of the Church broken from the inside or the outside?" Our personal uniforming can be a reflection of the ideal. However, I want "them" at the meeting, so at least the see the ideal. Just a thought.

Life should be a rainbow. A wide spectrum of variety that motivates each individual. In 25 years plus, I have worked from the den level all the way up to National committee. What I like to do is find out what motivates any given individual, and get it for them. If you love patches, I will find you patches. If you love pins, I will find you pins. You love being recognized by your peers, then Ill make that happen. Have uniforms with knots, pins, etc. I have uniform with nothing on it. I just want people in our organization and I want them motivated to do their best. Give back, and be happy. I have shut down my fair share of uniform police. Also, it is not just about the youth. Without the adults involved, the program would suffer greatly. Its about everyone having fun.........

Liars, Damn Liars, and then Accountants.......lol